(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50] PW[Alexandre Dinerchtein]PB[Ilja Shikshin]DT[2005-07-28]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[coffeeman [8k\]: R16 ! franck [5k\]: hello EGC2005 [-\]: HELLO ALL alexfarc [2k\]: hi EGS2005 palestrina [5k\]: hello, does anyone know about seijo sensei? LOVEYOU2: b will win Lifetec [1d\]: hi hi egc :) alexfarc [2k\]: hi egc2005 Am [5d\]: not this time, LOVE... EGC2005 [-\]: TODAY WE HAVE: ILJA SHIKSHIN 6D (B) vs ALEXANDRE DINERCHTEIN 1P alvin [11k\]: i go for white win Moritz75 [20k\]: hi folks EGC2005 [-\]: HI EVERYONE :) alvin [11k\]: hi egc alexfarc [2k\]: hi alvin Trollo [19k?\]: hello Astrae [5k\]: hi LOVEYOU2: predict the first move LOVEYOU2: Q16 alvin [11k\]: hi alex alvin [11k\]: q4 cropette [-\]: hmm i bet r16 LOVEYOU2: no alvin [11k\]: 10 K ZZero [1k\]: that would be fun LOVEYOU2: definitely not K10 ZZero [1k\]: it would be fun though cropette [-\]: k10 dangerous against breakfast alexfarc [2k\]: when you show a game with Catalin taranu ??? EGC2005 [-\]: WHEN HE GETS TO 1ST BOARD :) EGC2005 [-\]: SO I GUESS TOMORROW :) alexfarc [2k\]: ok Lifetec [1d\]: lol, that is, when he plays dinerchtein :) Gizensha [8k?\]: who is he playing today? EGC2005 [-\]: PIERRE COLMEZ 5D Lifetec [1d\]: ez :P Goda [19k\]: hello all EGC2005 [-\]: HELLO GODA alvin [11k\]: hi goda Goda [19k\]: :) perdedor [15k\]: what is ilya's nick on kgs? EGC2005 [-\]: ROLN111 GoMe [5k\]: roln111 alvin [11k\]: 9d perdedor [15k\]: thx Masurao [12k?\]: Who is the openent of Comez ? Mumie [1k?\]: go pierre go ^^ LOVEYOU2: if EGC said Taranu vs Kim Lee Chen (3d) everyone would be like man, taranu might lose coffeeman [8k\]: you know, beating Vic on 2 stones ginsu [6k\]: hi EGC, is there anyway to get to other games records than the ones on table1? lakisdizle [12k?\]: who is Kim Lee Chen on kgs? dupa: ? EGC2005 [-\]: GINSU: NO.. ginsu [6k\]: thanks : Lifetec [1d\]: eh, yes... look at the boards there :P Masurao [12k?\]: http://www.goweb.cz/egc2005/results.asp?id=144&lang=en EGC2005 [-\]: THERE IS RECDORD OF DINERCHTEIN VS ZHAO PEI IN CONGRESS BULLETIN BUT YOU HAVE TO GO TO PRAGUE FOR THAT.. alvin [11k\]: how long more for the game to start EGC2005 [-\]: 5 MINS Cobance [?\]: hi everybody EGC2005 [-\]: BOTH OPPONENTS HERE ALREADY ginsu [6k\]: :) just a2 days trip ZZero [1k\]: no congress bullitn is avalible online ZZero [1k\]: i read it coffeeman [8k\]: for a kifu, not bad snowman [-\]: Congress bulletin is available in the congress web site alvin [11k\]: how ? GoMe [5k\]: are they nervous? ;-) alvin [11k\]: url? snowman [-\]: http://www.goweb.cz/egc2005/news.asp?lang=en Am [5d\]: what collor of Dinest's shirt? alvin [11k\]: 4 minutes left EGC2005 [-\]: AM: WHITE snowman [-\]: two games commented ] ;B[qd]CR[qd]C[LOVEYOU2: nooooo Masurao [12k?\]: Let's go cropette [-\]: hehehe^^ alvin [11k\]: start Moritz75 [20k\]: go breakfast alexfarc [2k\]: start coffeeman [8k\]: I got it right alvin [11k\]: it's begin ] ;W[pp]CR[pp]C[alvin [11k\]: Q4 alvin [11k\]: really move that move JohnSmith [6k\]: Oh... Now White is better!!! alexfarc [2k\]: c4 Masurao [12k?\]: b resign LOVEYOU2: who's winning krastakin [22k?\]: lol LOVEYOU2: SE says W+11.5 alvin [11k\]: draw alvin [11k\]: it;s a draw game alvin [11k\]: hehe JohnSmith [6k\]: It's lunch! Moritz75 [20k\]: diagonalopening please LOVEYOU2: a question: why is b thinking? LOVEYOU2: he must have been in this situation at least 1000 times LOVEYOU2: this exact same board configuration ginsu [6k\]: fifferent day, different mood i guess coffeeman [8k\]: "How do I kill w on middle left..." Masurao [12k?\]: In fact, spending time is good to be concentrated krastakin [22k?\]: maybe thinking of what he knows about w? Moritz75 [20k\]: but how often with the same opponent? alexfarc [2k\]: egs 2005 whu play catalin? wauiwa [2d?\]: and still soesn't understand all variations Karl [11k\]: different opponent coffeeman [8k\]: reading the endgame Am [5d\]: (to LOVE) i believe he NEVER gat this posotion.... Am [5d\]: got* LOVEYOU2: really mex [-\]: b - ask to rotate board coffeeman [8k\]: lol LOVEYOU2: Q4 is uncommon after R16? spingle [8k?\]: maybe b always played 4-4 Am [5d\]: for me - yes coffeeman [8k\]: ask your opponent "Change your move please" EGC2005 [-\]: ALEX: PIERRE COLMEZ 5D cre [20k\]: white wins *g* alexfarc [2k\]: ok alexfarc [2k\]: thx alvin [11k\]: so long for a next move JohnSmith [6k\]: W+T? cre [20k\]: alvin: fuseki isn't easy ;) Am [5d\]: shikshin know a lot of standart fuseki< so he is looking now for some example... alexfarc [2k\]: o yes Masurao [12k?\]: D17 for instance :) LOVEYOU2: just play D16 mex [-\]: "god... gimme a sign.." Aleksm [5k?\]: diner will win, he confused ilija already Am [5d\]: it's not his taste... alexfarc [2k\]: just playc4 JohnSmith [6k\]: Is he used BIGO database? ZZero [1k\]: least Ilja's not playing blitz go alexfarc [2k\]: c4 ZZero [1k\]: like yesterday ZZero [1k\]: well for EGC that is palestrina [5k\]: which corner.. lasputin [13k?\]: you cant go wrong with R10 cre [20k\]: alexfarc: woah cross fuseki? Am [5d\]: for b is best way to get his stones like:D17 C11 C6 LOVEYOU2: what about D3 DanielW [17k\]: EGC: what is black doing? is he reading...? LOVEYOU2: D3 looks good to me wauiwa [2d?\]: C16 would be interesting EGC2005 [-\]: YES, STARRING AT THE BOARD DanielW [17k\]: he cannot be looking at the board, can he? Elandal [15k\]: I would love C4, but I'm expecting D17 or D16.. DanielW [17k\]: lol perdedor [15k\]: he is reading hikaru no go cre [20k\]: hehe Am [5d\]: Q4 - strong move... iguan [?\]: This position meets 55 times in base of the pro MFGO cre [20k\]: search the god-move mex [-\]: 100$ on D16 ] ;B[dc]CR[dc]C[mex [-\]: omg Karl [11k\]: close ;) LOVEYOU2: give me 100 Cobance [?\]: Ha DanielW [17k\]: aaahhhh coffeeman [8k\]: haha krastakin [22k?\]: fork out mex cropette [-\]: lost mex Gizensha [8k?\]: mex lost spingle [8k?\]: rofl ... i take paypal mex [-\]: damn mex [-\]: ;) Karl [11k\]: 100$ for all of us :)) coffeeman [8k\]: try again on next move ;) krastakin [22k?\]: Masakari [30k?\]: wow he got it ... Karl [11k\]: double or nothin ;) cre [20k\]: hehe LOVEYOU2: but it's obvious ilja is taking this match very very seriously mex [-\]: ok mex [-\]: D4 100% DanielW [17k\]: 134 observers x 100$ = ouch mex [-\]: 100$ Am [5d\]: if w C4 - then Shikshine play nadare... coffeeman [8k\]: should be taking it seriously LOVEYOU2: what's nadare palestrina [5k\]: d5? c15? ceeb [10k\]: avalanche Moritz75 [20k\]: what about playin strip-go kozou [2k\]: simply d4 maybe? Xris [-\]: haha LOVEYOU2: notbetween two guys, Gizensha [8k?\]: not enough clothes LOVEYOU2: ew krastakin [22k?\]: how would you decide when to take it off?? JnM [3k\]: ahha Goda [19k\]: oO ;p palestrina [5k\]: verx funny krastakin [22k?\]: lol ceeb [10k\]: wtf EGC2005 [-\]: ^^ Goda [19k\]: lol JnM [3k\]: nuclear tesuji ] ;W[cp]CR[cp]C[EmTom [13k?\]: EGC so much for a perfect relay :) ceeb [10k\]: this calls for the skywalker tesuji Karl [11k\]: ;) mex Am [5d\]: now i m waiting for nadare krastakin [22k?\]: yup...mex mex [-\]: T_T EGC2005 [-\]: I HAVE F***** MOUSEPAD JnM [3k\]: >_< cre [20k\]: Am: what is nadare? spingle [8k?\]: rofl alvin [11k\]: china flow JnM [3k\]: avalanche EmTom [13k?\]: hehhee DanyOcean [14k\]: mex I wanna bet with you Am [5d\]: nadare is: E4 E3 D4 D3 C5 Karl [11k\]: w j3 next :D Moritz75 [20k\]: avalanche = nadare mex [-\]: =) DanyOcean [14k\]: you seem to have a great instinct DanyOcean [14k\]: :) cre [20k\]: e4? not e3 first? Goda [19k\]: d 4 milka2 [8k\]: complex joseki riley [?\]: k10 ] ;B[cf]CR[cf]C[coffeeman [8k\]: wonder if Ilja will try to scramble things a bit Aleksm [5k?\]: EGC why u don't have mouse it cost 3$ JnM [3k\]: oh yeah ] ;W[nc]CR[nc]C[Moritz75 [20k\]: berlin-wall joseki hyrae2 [1d?\]: the avalance doesn't exist any more Am [5d\]: fuseki w had won.... EGC2005 [-\]: ALEKS: I HAVE LOVEYOU2: P16 Am [5d\]: no, LOVE.... cre [20k\]: q18 Karl [11k\]: he said 'mouse-pad' not trackpad milka2 [8k\]: M17 ? cre [20k\]: mmh no is to smal Masurao [12k?\]: How about M17 ? LOVEYOU2: where LOVEYOU2: K16? riley [?\]: k 10 LOVEYOU2: L16? Karl [11k\]: l17 MeowMix: k10 Am [5d\]: Q17 or M17 cre [20k\]: or tenuki and e3/4 LOVEYOU2: oh LOVEYOU2: Q17 looks good NoirSoldat [6k\]: v17 coffeeman [8k\]: slowish? ceeb [10k\]: v17 really slow Masurao [12k?\]: I like M17 NoirSoldat [6k\]: where is v17 @_@??? JnM [3k\]: -_- DanyOcean [14k\]: far away Moritz75 [20k\]: offboard tenuki iguan [?\]: After с14 the position became original JnM [3k\]: lol krastakin [22k?\]: on another board somewhere in space.... milka2 [8k\]: on the other side of the board Karl [11k\]: +(o_o)+ lala thinks: l17/16 NoirSoldat [6k\]: i think its m17 or tenuki Am [5d\]: b is thinking too much in fuseki.... Lifetec [1d\]: i dont think tenuki GoMe [5k\]: bQ17, wL17, bJ17.. Am [5d\]: not bad, Go.... DanyOcean [14k\]: where are they from ? Masurao [12k?\]: They have time indeed z41n3 [16k\]: what is the rank from the players coffeeman [8k\]: 12k and 7k Am [5d\]: but there is still F17 Karl [11k\]: both russian, 1p and 6d z41n3 [16k\]: ;) milka2 [8k\]: --> GoMe then O15 Q14 cre [20k\]: hehe it's time for the troy soundtrack -> hectors death...aka blacks death :) GoMe [5k\]: hmm top left stays a bit weak.. that's true. GoMe [5k\]: ah well i would go for Q17 :) ceeb [10k\]: spoiler! coffeeman [8k\]: lol ~ nechio [2d\]: http://www.egc-2005-prague.com Masurao [12k?\]: I bet M17 dewey [1d\]: ilja shiskshin is 6p ? JnM [3k\]: 6d palestrina [5k\]: where is the next egc? milka2 [8k\]: Italy dewey [1d\]: isn't he roln on kgs ? GoMe [5k\]: true palestrina [5k\]: tx JnM [3k\]: yes LOVEYOU2: i saw the picture of this korean kid who looks literally less than 10 years old, but he is supposed to be 6d Xris [-\]: photo 28 looks very very dodgy... LOVEYOU2: it was on egc website EGC2005 [-\]: HE IS 6D!! dewey [1d\]: how old is he now ? LOVEYOU2: egc, how old is he palestrina [5k\]: like holger grund in chess GoMe [5k\]: 15..? Aleksm [5k?\]: he is 9d on KGS EGC2005 [-\]: I DONT KNOW... Xris [-\]: caps-lock mania :) Am [5d\]: ilya - 16 DanyOcean [14k\]: this kind of game shouldnt exist, does it go faster later ? Jubjub [12k\]: darkmage is 16 LOVEYOU2: he was yawning in the picture EGC2005 [-\]: HE COULD BE ABOUT 7... LOVEYOU2: lol 7 year old 6d EGC2005 [-\]: 8... hoppy [5k\]: haha stop making the man mad EGC2005 [-\]: DUNNO EGC2005 [-\]: LAST YEAR HE WAS 2D cre [20k\]: EGC: how much time exist? palestrina [5k\]: tx Masurao [12k?\]: Almost 30 minutes for 6 stones... riley [?\]: Time is infinite Am [5d\]: EGC< how many moves made Colmec&Taranu? ZZero [1k\]: Ilja just thining EGC? ginsu [6k\]: did ilja spent so much time on fuseki yesterday? EGC2005 [-\]: ABOUT 10 ginsu [6k\]: he played quite fast in tcuban JnM [3k\]: go Dinerchtein DanyOcean [14k\]: 10? milka2 [8k\]: Colmez beat Svetlana 1p two days ago palestrina [5k\]: 10 metres? EGC2005 [-\]: CATALIN 10 MOVES EGC2005 [-\]: I MEAN alvin [11k\]: go breakfast palestrina [5k\]: sorry, is the rso me 2.5 hours base time? GoMe [5k\]: Is Ilja even looking at the board or.. ? alvin [11k\]: won by 10 meteres ? Am [5d\]: not fast.... spingle [8k?\]: nah hes skinning up and opening a beer calamari: wow EGC2005 [-\]: GOME: YES milka2 [8k\]: he is scrapping his leg ZZero [1k\]: hm... DanyOcean [14k\]: and alexandre ? Am [5d\]: he-he< he trying to win this game! DanyOcean [14k\]: is he gone to have a break , watching tv ? having a bud ? GoMe [5k\]: waiting for the black stones to appear on the board :-) ZZero [1k\]: seriously this much time spent on my 7 can't be benificial Am [5d\]: this game will be finished quickly.... EGC2005 [-\]: ALEXANDRE WATCHING OTHER GAMES ceeb [10k\]: hehe JnM [3k\]: eheh ZZero [1k\]: yeah i would too GoMe [5k\]: heh LOVEYOU2: dinerchen should say "why don't u make a move kid" calamari: interesting move, didn't try this yet JacquesGo [12k\]: Black resign perhaps milka2 [8k\]: as a pro, he should be accustomed to deep thinking in fuseki EGC2005 [-\]: IF HE DOESNT MAKE A MOVE SOON, I WILL WATCH CATALIN ;) Am [5d\]: EGC, can U see father of Shikshine near the board? GoMe [5k\]: tss ;-) lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol EGC2005 [-\]: AM: NO lakisdizle [12k?\]: fido do you choose hte matches we watch? DanyOcean [14k\]: where is played the game ? Masurao [12k?\]: Yes !! I want to see Colmez's game !! k12 [5d\]: me too EGC2005 [-\]: LAKIS: NO Drimgere [5k\]: who does? EGC2005 [-\]: ITS 1TH BOARD coffeeman [8k\]: EGC will go see it, not you =P Drimgere [5k\]: oh DanyOcean [14k\]: oh egc you are playing each move they play right ? milka2 [8k\]: me too, plesae ! lakisdizle [12k?\]: ahhh lakisdizle [12k?\]: is it team go? Am [5d\]: EGC - this game will be very funny (my predict) ginsu [6k\]: it's surely not the first time these two play together, do you know about this egc? Xris [-\]: how warm is it over there? i hope its not over 30 too DanyOcean [14k\]: i thought he really had played T1 ] ;B[ep]CR[ep]C[LOVEYOU2: funny or fun? Masurao [12k?\]: oh ! Masurao [12k?\]: tennuki ! ZZero [1k\]: yay! k12 [5d\]: super move Imvatim [7k?\]: super? alexfarc [2k\]: oooo miksas [2k\]: b read too much ahead, thats enough...lets watch now Drimgere [5k\]: i prefer k12 myself martinC94 [10k\]: yop fido miksas [2k\]: he Drimgere [5k\]: but if you say so k12 [5d\]: I don't know but he spend 10 min to play spingle [8k?\]: whats w;s followup against r15? Imvatim [7k?\]: ^^ Am [5d\]: both, fun&funny cre [20k\]: is this sente for black? LOVEYOU2: i can't imagine a high level game being funny EGC2005 [-\]: B SPEND 23 MINS ALREADY.. ] ;W[cm]CR[cm]C[lakisdizle [12k?\]: high level game but serious at the same time lakisdizle [12k?\]: are funny* Masurao [12k?\]: What is the amount of time ? Am [5d\]: E4 - is already not fuseki move GoMe [5k\]: hmm white not stupid. k12 [5d\]: this is new hoppy [5k\]: win money? alexfarc [2k\]: normaly Masurao [12k?\]: GoMe : no he is just 1p milka2 [8k\]: 2h30 each hurrikaani [5d?\]: how often do these players play against each other? ginsu [6k\]: EGC watching catalin:) EGC2005 [-\]: NO :) Am [5d\]: couple years ago Shikshine twice in a row beated Diner. So now he (Shikshine) like to repeat thet achivement... milka2 [8k\]: uh milka2 [8k\]: diner was already pro ? Am [5d\]: yea DanyOcean [14k\]: I would like to know the rate move/time of lija milka2 [8k\]: great hoppy [5k\]: how he been one p? EGC2005 [-\]: 4MOVES/25 MINS Masurao [12k?\]: DanyOcean : it is less than a snail rate :) JnM [3k\]: =D DanyOcean [14k\]: (^_^) milka2 [8k\]: diner lives in Korea calamari: C3 natural ? Am [5d\]: bD6 wC6 bC3 i think he is thinking about that.... ] ;B[cq]CR[cq]C[GoMe [5k\]: why exchange D6 for C6? calamari: it's usual with E4 at E3 Am [5d\]: D6 C6 C3 B3 D4 - good shape Imvatim [7k?\]: who won yesterday btw in Kang vs Iija? EGC2005 [-\]: AM: SHIKSHINS FATHER CAME ;) calamari: you can study the joseki to find out, but i don't know this one Am [5d\]: wow!! LOVEYOU2: why wow\\ ] ;W[bq]CR[bq] ;B[dq]CR[dq]C[JnM [3k\]: C10 calamari: H4 go wild !!! :) LOVEYOU2: did dinerchen just tell ilja "i am your father"? DanyOcean [14k\]: he came because he was watching the game on kgs and he wants him to play faster hoppy [5k\]: c 10 moff [22k?\]: lol GoMe [5k\]: b2 Masurao [12k?\]: ilja skywalker ? milka2 [8k\]: Imvatim -> http://www.goweb.cz/egc2005/results.asp?id=144&lang=en coffeeman [8k\]: wow.... no comment on move 10! Imvatim [7k?\]: thx DanyOcean [14k\]: B5 aditsu [9k?\]: b2 standard calamari: come on alex, i want some action :) Adriano [9k\]: lol coffeeman [8k\]: he will take 22 minutes for this move milka2 [8k\]: B2 C10 M7 ? calamari: use that star point ! JnM [3k\]: m7 ? Oo riley [?\]: so random LOVEYOU2: m7??\\ Adriano [9k\]: hahah m7? Am [5d\]: w can play C10 Adriano [9k\]: :O ] ;W[iq]CR[iq] ;B[br]CR[br]C[calamari: hehehehe :) ] ;W[cj]CR[cj]C[JnM [3k\]: C10 ginsu [6k\]: he did:) DanyOcean [14k\]: wow DanyOcean [14k\]: what happens ? DanyOcean [14k\]: see calamari: he induced defense DanyOcean [14k\]: father came JnM [3k\]: go alex go calamari: like in the previous game ] ;B[oc]CR[oc]C[GoMe [5k\]: white doesnt want to hurt Q4 heh LOVEYOU2: who's his father.. JnM [3k\]: hu LOVEYOU2: is he famous milka2 [8k\]: oh JnM [3k\]: joseki ?__? alexfarc [2k\]: ? kozou [2k\]: yah LOVEYOU2: p17 is joseki cre [20k\]: who leads? black? GoMe [5k\]: P17 is another misclick? heh ;-) hirakawade [4d?\]: Hi Arasham EGC2005 [-\]: GOME: GRRR calamari: i like w, J3 very nice Arasham [19k?\]: HI Hira alexfarc [2k\]: yes miis clic GoMe [5k\]: lol milka2 [8k\]: Svetlana 1p is sister of Ilya Xris [-\]: redhead? Karl [11k\]: redrose coffeeman [8k\]: is she hot? moff [22k?\]: ^^ Karl [11k\]: she's cute Xris [-\]: if shes that redhead then: hell yeah PGPKane [25k\]: haha the most important question hoppy [5k\]: who? s0924 [1k\]: very :) Xris [-\]: introduce me :) coffeeman [8k\]: well, we all have our priorities GralAnibal [14k\]: so breakfast is going to kill the russian kid? ] ;W[od]CR[od]C[LOVEYOU2: breafkast will lose ] ;B[pc]CR[pc]C[s0924 [1k\]: bf storng enough to kil evrebody :) milka2 [8k\]: diner is russian too JnM [3k\]: ah ok ] ;W[md]CR[md] ;B[qf]CR[qf]C[LOVEYOU2: ilja will win ] ;W[ic]CR[ic]C[DanyOcean [14k\]: what happened to black ? ] ;B[gc]CR[gc]C[LOVEYOU2: like in star wars JnM [3k\]: J15 DanyOcean [14k\]: why is he playing that fast ? Masurao [12k?\]: Rita poscai is more cute alexfarc [2k\]: ? milka2 [8k\]: his father spanked him LOVEYOU2: b is playing fast because when he took 20 min to play E4, he was reading this far DanyOcean [14k\]: ^^ alvin [11k\]: white is a better shape DanyOcean [14k\]: wow ok Xris [-\]: lol LOVEYOU2: i'm kidding of course GralAnibal [14k\]: w is too good , cant lose Imvatim [7k?\]: lol alexfarc [2k\]: win white Gizensha [8k?\]: in pro level that might happen... DanyOcean [14k\]: eh :( lakisdizle [12k?\]: never assume someone is to good alvin [11k\]: black group at 3C have not live yet GralAnibal [14k\]: but he is GralAnibal [14k\]: :-P ] ;W[nq]CR[nq]C[hoppy [5k\]: you kidding? GoMe [5k\]: here are both Shikshin: http://www.dgob.de/kiju-go/kiju-pokal/eygc/images/shikshin_big.jpg Gizensha [8k?\]: "sometimes even monkeys fall from trees" Masurao [12k?\]: waouw GralAnibal [14k\]: seems some people dont know who is Alex "breakfast coffeeman [8k\]: too bad, not my type obelix1 [?\]: r4 milka2 [8k\]: many 3rd line moves zazie [1d\]: M17 ! ginsu [6k\]: point contest calamari: O3 is clever GralAnibal [14k\]: w styles is solid and calm alvin [11k\]: R3 GralAnibal [14k\]: he will win in end game ] ;B[lc]CR[lc]C[AxelJ [19k\]: Where's Alexandre Dinerchtein from. Russian too? ] ;W[mb]CR[mb] ;B[jd]CR[jd]C[alexfarc [2k\]: ya GoMe [5k\]: yes coffeeman [8k\]: ah GralAnibal [14k\]: b is too agresive milka2 [8k\]: yes Imvatim [7k?\]: and so the fighting starts ^^ coffeeman [8k\]: bah, that's his style palestrina [5k\]: yes GralAnibal [14k\]: cant win this game ginsu [6k\]: this is joseki yeong: wow what an exiting game , ilja vs alex :) alexfarc [2k\]: is korean yeong: (wolcome back EGC) Imvatim [7k?\]: joseki?? k12 [5d\]: is normal way to play alvin [11k\]: alex is korean ? coffeeman [8k\]: wow k12 [5d\]: is a joseky Karl [11k\]: he's playing in korea as 1p, but he's russian alexfarc [2k\]: no yeong: both are russian ] ;W[jc]CR[jc]C[alexfarc [2k\]: ilja ] ;B[kc]CR[kc]C[milka2 [8k\]: alex lives in Korea DanyOcean [14k\]: how old are they ? ] ;W[kb]CR[kb]C[coffeeman [8k\]: madness ] ;B[lb]CR[lb] ;W[la]CR[la]C[alvin [11k\]: oh ] ;B[jb]CR[jb] ;W[ka]CR[ka] ;B[id]CR[id] ;W[ib]CR[ib] ;B[hc]CR[hc] ;W[hb]CR[hb] ;B[gb]CR[gb]C[AxelJ [19k\]: I am with the blond kid (Ilja) alvin [11k\]: so fast alexfarc [2k\]: o is good black olczyk [16k\]: Both players should take a few lessons from takemiya! calamari: M15 ? alvin [11k\]: who is that GralAnibal [14k\]: ? Karl [11k\]: ^ ^ ] ;W[le]CR[le]C[GralAnibal [14k\]: breakfast is giving him a lesson Masakari [30k?\]: any chance for black to kill the white group? alvin [11k\]: no Aleksm [5k?\]: both from one city Kazan Drimgere [5k\]: he plays the cosmic style alvin tetris [-\]: which one is breakfast? alvin [11k\]: what style is that GoMe [5k\]: white olczyk [16k\]: He invented cosmic style Drim. Drimgere [5k\]: where he goes for a huge center alvin [11k\]: really ? Drimgere [5k\]: yes olczyk milka2 [8k\]: alex is breakfast tetris [-\]: you can see that already? GralAnibal [14k\]: w is Alex Dinerschtein, "breakfast" yeong: w is breakfast ; black is roln111 Masurao [12k?\]: anyone is able to read above what are names ? GralAnibal [14k\]: european champion, etc alvin [11k\]: ..... GoMe [5k\]: yes Drimgere [5k\]: look at the names tetris ;-) hoppy [5k\]: what is cosmic style? GralAnibal [14k\]: pro level Drimgere [5k\]: huge center moyo tetris [-\]: it doesn't say breakfast lakisdizle [12k?\]: roin111's pic always kinds scared me Drimgere [5k\]: it says alex diner GoMe [5k\]: it's relay from real game alvin [11k\]: EGC2005 should change the name to breakfast and roln111 coffeeman [8k\]: cosmic style is plunking random stones on board with enough conviction that it looks genuine Jubjub [12k\]: breakfast is a KGS name not real name tetris [-\]: what has "alex diner" to do with "breakfast"? Drimgere [5k\]: same name as the breakfast account Xris [-\]: anyone actually know how to pronounce dinerchtein? tetris [-\]: oh alvin [11k\]: ask breakfast milka2 [8k\]: breakfast KGS nick of alex Willbrooks [1k\]: (hapily remembers Ilja losing to tenbatsu at eygc) tetris [-\]: ah Fling [-\]: what to do now? d11 or something like r4? yeong: dinerlchtayne ? XD lakisdizle [12k?\]: xris: we need celila for that one tetris [-\]: why? Xris [-\]: :) DanyOcean [14k\]: mex is gone DanyOcean [14k\]: :( alvin [11k\]: that black three stones group is too small GralAnibal [14k\]: where is Applebabie? calamari: hallo fj milka2 [8k\]: R4 ? DanyOcean [14k\]: I would have liked to bet with him on the new move tetris [-\]: does applebabie speak english enough to make a bet? alvin [11k\]: black can speed up it's terrortiy tetris [-\]: oh, i have him confused with vibularm DanyOcean [14k\]: he already lost 200$ Goda [19k\]: r6 ? Drimgere [5k\]: hehe, vibu ;-) olczyk [16k\]: Hasn't been on since July 2 GralAnibal [14k\]: R10 seems good for b alvin [11k\]: if black move else where DanyOcean [14k\]: he doesnt has to play around L16 ? GralAnibal [14k\]: or R9 ] ;B[ro]CR[ro]C[alvin [11k\]: white waste two move to eat black riqui: what is B's face? milka2 [8k\]: not sure right side is so important tetris [-\]: ? GralAnibal [14k\]: yes, right side ] ;W[rp]CR[rp] ;B[qp]CR[qp]C[GralAnibal [14k\]: look whole board GralAnibal [14k\]: b needs right side alvin [11k\]: solid play by breakfast ] ;W[qo]CR[qo] ;B[qq]CR[qq] ;W[rq]CR[rq]C[GralAnibal [14k\]: w is allways solid play ginsu [6k\]: good dor b ginsu [6k\]: for b JnM [3k\]: gogogo! hurrikaani [5d?\]: hmm, i think this ok for white ] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[qn]CR[qn] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[op]CR[op]C[yeong: ilja is agressiv :) and alex stil solid thats his way of play i like it ^^ ] ;B[rn]CR[rn]C[calamari: this makes J3 ideal Lifetec [1d\]: hmm... Masurao [12k?\]: that's big fight ! ] ;W[rr]CR[rr]C[alvin [11k\]: black was tricked by white ] ;B[qm]CR[qm] ;W[pn]CR[pn]C[Lifetec [1d\]: huh Lifetec [1d\]: this is joseki guys hoppy [5k\]: where? alvin [11k\]: ya spingle [8k?\]: what are the ranks aof the players? Am [5d\]: for me - w is good now... Lifetec [1d\]: so who has been tricked.. hurrikaani [5d?\]: ilja is maybe trying too much in this match? JnM [3k\]: yes Am Lifetec [1d\]: but the corner is very big.... ] ;B[om]CR[om]C[ginsu [6k\]: b looking for influence over right side ] ;W[pm]CR[pm] ;B[pl]CR[pl]C[yeong: he must be carreful ] ;W[on]CR[on] ;B[nn]CR[nn] ;W[oo]CR[oo]C[GralAnibal [14k\]: b can give a good fight , but breakfast is pro player GralAnibal [14k\]: cant lose cement [7k\]: pro has lost to ama before ] ;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Lifetec [1d\]: being pro doesnt mean you're incincible... GralAnibal [14k\]: sure yeong: because alex and his calm and solid style is really powerful :) Lifetec [1d\]: *invincible GralAnibal [14k\]: of course coffeeman [8k\]: b will mostly be pro in couple years GralAnibal [14k\]: you bet alvin [11k\]: break GralAnibal [14k\]: I bet for breakfast Drimgere [5k\]: having a pro level is quite an advantage milka2 [8k\]: pro lost to ama two days ago Karl [11k\]: b will be pro be4 he's 20 ] ;W[ol]CR[ol]C[hurrikaani [5d?\]: q15 next? hurrikaani [5d?\]: ok Lifetec [1d\]: well, having it isn't... ] ;B[nm]CR[nm]C[ginsu [6k\]: hey read up , ilja beat alex twice before:P Drimgere [5k\]: attaining it lifetec, sorry JnM [3k\]: P9 laupau [24k\]: how old is he? Lifetec [1d\]: :)) a1akari [7k\]: I tried having the pro level a few weeks ago. Drim is right, its an advantage Karl [11k\]: 16 yeong: 17 no ? GralAnibal [14k\]: lol Lestard [4k\]: does somebody know the timesettings? JnM [3k\]: 16 laupau [24k\]: is he still like in the picture of roln111? Lifetec [1d\]: hmm Lifetec [1d\]: something about 2 hours and some byo Karl [11k\]: nope, he's pimples now Lifetec [1d\]: im not exactly sure ] ;W[ok]CR[ok]C[alvin [11k\]: 2and 1/2 h ours laupau [24k\]: waw Cobance [?\]: 2:30 each player JnM [3k\]: 2h30 and 1 min per move laupau [24k\]: and how old is alex? Lestard [4k\]: thanks, lifetec Karl [11k\]: 16 GralAnibal [14k\]: is TTT replaying the game? DanyOcean [14k\]: this sequence was good for black ? Cobance [?\]: byojomi 1 min yeong: haha ^^ older JnM [3k\]: =D hoppy [5k\]: 50? Am [5d\]: alex is 25 yeong: younger alvin [11k\]: which part will black safe Imvatim [7k?\]: q10? laupau [24k\]: waw alvin [11k\]: too low Lifetec [1d\]: the ight side now perdedor [15k\]: these 2 have played each other a lot? Karl [11k\]: oops, alex=25, ilja=16 laupau [24k\]: thx thelaura [?\]: ilja is 15 Karl [11k\]: :/ ForU: w lookin good Karl [11k\]: details... *g* alvin [11k\]: no he is 111 thelaura [?\]: :) a1akari [7k\]: Ilja is improving fast alvin [11k\]: he;s brother is a pro ? ] ;B[pj]CR[pj]C[JnM [3k\]: lool alvin olczyk [16k\]: WHich group is weaker? P9 or O7 ? Karl [11k\]: his siter is pro Karl [11k\]: sister JnM [3k\]: o7 nechio [2d\]: PHOTOS from EGC ... http://www.egc-2005-prague.com lakisdizle [12k?\]: what country dinerchtein representing? Lifetec [1d\]: well the P9 group can play first, so i think its about even :) GoMe [5k\]: olczyk depends on influence on the board.. JnM [3k\]: russia AxelJ [19k\]: both are from russia ] ;W[ni]CR[ni]C[alvin [11k\]: the kgs score estimate system say that black is leading GralAnibal [14k\]: lol ForU: therefore black must be alvin [11k\]: * white DarkRider [11k\]: score guesstimator :p GralAnibal [14k\]: please dont use SE a1akari [7k\]: The KGS SE never lies JnM [3k\]: SE = **** ] ;B[oj]CR[oj] ;W[nj]CR[nj] ;B[ml]CR[ml]C[Aleksm [5k?\]: no SE very usfull alvin [11k\]: i think black have just lost ] ;W[nk]CR[nk]C[JnM [3k\]: ^^ olczyk [16k\]: Wow. herrubu [23k\]: how old is roln111? Am [5d\]: P10 N8 is too easy for this game... ] ;B[ph]CR[ph]C[olczyk [16k\]: I thought N9 alvin [11k\]: so fast in the game , black is escpae hurrikaani [5d?\]: empty triangle :( DanyOcean [14k\]: F3 yeong: empty triangle tesuji ;) Masakari [30k?\]: my SE says white is much better olczyk [16k\]: Where empty triangle. Karl [11k\]: roln111 is 15 AxelJ [19k\]: those blacks around o7 look like a serious problem for b Imvatim [7k?\]: seems like white will have to attack o7 stones aggressively GralAnibal [14k\]: o8 tetris [-\]: forget SE herrubu [23k\]: o:) thx alvin [11k\]: white will do something special dewey [1d\]: bet dinerstein will kill n 8 Drimgere [5k\]: my SE can beat up your SE >_> lakisdizle [12k?\]: you cant use an SE in a game of this maginitude GoMe [5k\]: sure you can hoppy [5k\]: k 9 :O alvin [11k\]: no S7 yeong: n8 really weak now , Imvatim [7k?\]: l8 seems most direct ^^ lakisdizle [12k?\]: wouldnt be accurate Am [5d\]: 07.05.1990 ilia shikshine hurrikaani [5d?\]: it would be funny feature for kibitzers to see where SE would play next Aleksm [5k?\]: if diner wil kill n8 he will win for sure ] ;W[cc]CR[cc]C[alvin [11k\]: S7 Q9 JnM [3k\]: oh yeah coffeeman [8k\]: if w will have more points than b at the end, he will win for sure lakisdizle [12k?\]: wow lakisdizle [12k?\]: misclick fido? JnM [3k\]: no missclick EGC2005 [-\]: NO Masurao [12k?\]: dinner like this sort of stones :) alvin [11k\]: so fast white take corner hoppy [5k\]: hmm s 7 really bad ^^ tetris [-\]: ? ] ;B[dd]CR[dd]C[yeong: fido almost never missclick ;) almost, Fox [8k\]: ko oh oh lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol yeong Fox [8k\]: no Aleksm [5k?\]: and never undo emk [4k\]: nice fotos of the back of your head arround =) milka2 [8k\]: just checking maybe Karl [11k\]: probe yeong: yes GoMe [5k\]: EGC is there a picture of you recording a game? hehe :) GralAnibal [14k\]: w aroubd d12? GoMe [5k\]: maybe one where you just made a misclick? :) tetris [-\]: why d12? GralAnibal [14k\]: next move around e13, d12? Aleksm [5k?\]: j5? riqui: B15 ? alvin [11k\]: european competition only for european nation? EGC2005 [-\]: GOME: YES, MY HEAD ^^ EGC2005 [-\]: EMK: THX :p alvin [11k\]: ? milka2 [8k\]: yes GralAnibal [14k\]: d12 is schicho ate of j16 emk [4k\]: http://www.goweb.cz/egc2005/foto/03_02.jpg GoCowboy [?\]: no, its open for all alvin [11k\]: open for all nation ? GoCowboy [?\]: yes GoMe [5k\]: heh :) ] ;W[lp]CR[lp]C[GralAnibal [14k\]: and blocks b left into the center GoCowboy [?\]: there are koreans and japanese in the competition, too alvin [11k\]: it was a waste that my friend did not go for the competition Seneka1 [15k\]: Здесь русские есть?? lakisdizle [12k?\]: W suddenly pull out? DollyDS [19k\]: я %) alvin [11k\]: a 3p standard Aleksm [5k?\]: da Am [5d\]: yes GralAnibal [14k\]: maybe some dan player can make useful comment? Drimgere [5k\]: EGC, is it distracting to the players to have you typing and clicking right next to you? str17: есть конечно Fox [8k\]: because it doesnt work over their prolly hoppy [5k\]: how long alex been 1p? DollyDS [19k\]: это кстати прямой эфир как бы? :) str17: fuf Imvatim [7k?\]: hmm i'm thiking it's more like aji str17: ага Fox [8k\]: i dont see the invasion of whites working in the upper left corner Seneka1 [15k\]: приятно слышать русскую речь среди амерской кокофонии :) lakisdizle [12k?\]: long tim Am [5d\]: boys, lets speak engl.... lakisdizle [12k?\]: before he was a pro he was backpast Neya [?\]: Не то слово herrubu [23k\]: how that boy playing on that foto? DollyDS [19k\]: точно.. str17: да а почему говорить по-английски? наоборот orz: b is roln111? tetris [-\]: what foto? Am [5d\]: i clone this game in russ. room now.... alvin [11k\]: what language is that str17: russian DollyDS [19k\]: уже спрашивают : Aleksm [5k?\]: english room herrubu [23k\]: link move 71 Seneka1 [15k\]: ага :)_ Seneka1 [15k\]: пусть учат :) Fox [8k\]: why does the russian bother u so much? tetris [-\]: hee Seneka1 [15k\]: Russian Match!!! GoCowboy [?\]: :D alvin [11k\]: so slow alvin [11k\]: the game is going alexfarc [2k\]: yes DollyDS [19k\]: а он сохранится в списке матчей до вечера? я сейчас досмотреть не успею.. alvin [11k\]: english please GoCowboy [?\]: in 20 years russians will dominate go, like they dominated chess :) alvin [11k\]: really ? str17: will be this game in the list of games on KGS by evening? GoCowboy [?\]: nope :P Seneka1 [15k\]: наверно нет, но думаю на кидо можно будет глянуть hoppy [5k\]: slow. game it str17: ne budet DollyDS [19k\]: ТТ alvin [11k\]: i thought it was chinese or korean dominate go GoCowboy [?\]: but its great to have more european pros GralAnibal [14k\]: chess is european game, same as russia, I dont think go is that popular there calamari: your moves for black ? herrubu [23k\]: what russian country will be in 20 yearsr? i would not bet on that.. calamari: i can't find... Seneka1 [15k\]: Мне кажется или черные выигрывают ? GoCowboy [?\]: *slapshisforehead* you're right alvin [11k\]: so slow DollyDS [19k\]: хороший вопрос ) str17: у белых лучше на мой взгляд DanyOcean [14k\]: calamari i think he has to play around N8 but i dont know where DanyOcean [14k\]: dont you think ? Cobance [?\]: причајте енглески Seneka1 [15k\]: У черных справа хорошо и слева :) calamari: but what's the right move ? GralAnibal [14k\]: can we use english here? eristoff [6k\]: i would play L6 AxelJ [19k\]: he attacks from bottom. olczyk [16k\]: So what was the point of C17? czarny [-\]: how does russian keyboard look ? Hageh [3d?\]: k4 or k5 ? L13? Seneka1 [15k\]: Cobance! Taech Russian - It is Go future GoCowboy [?\]: weird ;) DollyDS [19k\]: если белые соединят середину и верх... то я боюсь загадывать %) ginsu [6k\]: i guess even b is clueless too :) olczyk [16k\]: Through it's eyes. GralAnibal [14k\]: too much other languages get confused, ( like to learn russian some day) miksas [2k\]: ok boys pls use english in this room czarny [-\]: is it some kind of russian qwerty ? iguan [?\]: Партия сохранится под ником egc2005 GoCowboy [?\]: if it bothers u so much, ignore them calamari: C17 is a probe DollyDS [19k\]: замечательно.... calamari: to get aji GralAnibal [14k\]: thats not the point GoCowboy [?\]: it is GralAnibal [14k\]: you have a clone in russian room ] ;B[kn]CR[kn]C[furr [?\]: who cares if there are some other language than english in midst of this gibberish? Gizensha [8k?\]: :) str17: :)) GralAnibal [14k\]: I like to see dan player commetns on the game revo [13k\]: there are no yet eristoff [6k\]: he agreed with me :) Tremaine [9k\]: furr: Maybe the people who have complained about it. a1akari [7k\]: Íslenska, það er gott túngumál spingle [8k?\]: Am was earlier ] ;W[bo]CR[bo]C[herrubu [23k\]: egc is dan :) Hageh [3d?\]: slow and steady, b thinks he is ahead EGC2005 [-\]: YES ^^ Lifetec [1d\]: hmm Lifetec [1d\]: why B5, not B4? ] ;B[gq]CR[gq]C[herrubu [23k\]: why fj is not playing in praha? a1akari [7k\]: why not b5 before calamari: better connection Drimgere [5k\]: less susceptible to a splitting attack? Lifetec [1d\]: hmmm str17: a1kari - very beatiful language, nice to see a1akari [7k\]: takk str17: takk takk milka2 [8k\]: L3 aji czarny [-\]: takk takk ? GralAnibal [14k\]: relax GoMe [5k\]: danish? str17: pa svenska "tack tack" - thanks, please JnM [3k\]: finnidh GoMe [5k\]: takk = thanks right? GoMe [5k\]: :) Kerrick [16k\]: how strong were the players of this game?` GralAnibal [14k\]: try to keep comments, game related pls a1akari [7k\]: Icelandic moff [22k?\]: 馬鹿 EGC2005 [-\]: ILJA SHIKSHIN 6D (B) vs ALEXANDRE DINERCHTEIN 1P GoCowboy [?\]: they're 1p and 6d czarny [-\]: i know also some nice language czarny [-\]: perkele satana milka2 [8k\]: woodpeckerish Tremaine [9k\]: str17: Do me a favor. Register. =) Drimgere [5k\]: would j5 be ok kozou [2k\]: W gotta k4? Drimgere [5k\]: ? ] ;W[io]CR[io]C[str17: tremaine, for what? JnM [3k\]: go missclick eristoff [6k\]: nice tesuji krastakin [22k?\]: lol GoMe [5k\]: misclick! yay herrubu [23k\]: egc is fj dickhut in praha too ? GoMe [5k\]: *again* str17: i moved to Oro ater you KGS gibberish chat. EGC2005 [-\]: NO GoCowboy [?\]: its i lja str17: asfter herrubu [23k\]: ok czarny [-\]: EGC are there pro comments on those games ? str17: after! revo [13k\]: Oro still refuses to send me a password :( GoCowboy [?\]: they know why EGC2005 [-\]: YES BUT NOT ONLINE revo [13k\]: or any mail at all czarny [-\]: EGC pity milka2 [8k\]: K8 ? EGC2005 [-\]: YES herrubu [23k\]: why not we watching these games for ages and the reviews are offline :( str17: on oro 100 americans do not chat about britney spears in the pro game chat nor any other game bernie [13k\]: does someone knows how many kgs 9dans are in praha ? Goda [19k\]: k8 ? eristoff [6k\]: i would play M10 JnM [3k\]: fido + T1 = ♥ Goda [19k\]: black win Goda [19k\]: : ) GoCowboy [?\]: w cant catch it wauiwa [2d?\]: 2 9d are playing krastakin [22k?\]: EGC, now you're messing around with our heads... :( Naruto2006 [18k\]: misclick Xris [-\]: intimidation tesuji GralAnibal [14k\]: lol alexfarc [2k\]: i likeT 1 diopocco: is fido egc2005? EGC2005 [-\]: WASNT MISCLICK THIS TIME riqui: parkinson tesuji JnM [3k\]: -_- ? Hageh [3d?\]: K 13? J2? JnM [3k\]: LOL EGC2005 [-\]: I WANTED CUT THAT MOVE OFF RECORD moff [22k?\]: ? moff [22k?\]: lol alexfarc [2k\]: lol GoCowboy [?\]: look at breakfasts info, he isnt 9d anymore rvf [11k\]: can only be done after game, the cut EGC2005 [-\]: OK THX armyweiqi [15k\]: GoCowboy, breakfast is 1p Lifetec [1d\]: gocowboy, look at backpast account GoMe [5k\]: GOCowbow: look at backpast info Trinity151 [?\]: ilja judged the game is so good he can play t1 once wauiwa [2d?\]: backpast? Kerrick [16k\]: m10? Lifetec [1d\]: ^^ home :) Lifetec [1d\]: *Gome Lifetec [1d\]: :) eristoff [6k\]: why do you want to cut T1, maybe he plays it anyway GralAnibal [14k\]: breakfast = backpast GoMe [5k\]: go home :-) Lifetec [1d\]: :P GoCowboy [?\]: kk wauiwa [2d?\]: backpast=9d GoCowboy [?\]: *bows* ginsu [6k\]: is c3 plainly alive or still unsettled? GralAnibal [14k\]: who still thinks b can win this game? DanyOcean [14k\]: w+r ? GoCowboy [?\]: can or will? Drimgere [5k\]: white likes those early probes like c17 it seems GralAnibal [14k\]: w is attacking 2 groups at same time, efficient GralAnibal [14k\]: cant lose now GralAnibal [14k\]: all w secured Lifetec [1d\]: well.... the bottom left group is quite safe czarny [-\]: any high dans here ? GoMe [5k\]: lol well why don't you play as white gral and win :-) riqui: J7 ? czarny [-\]: got a question DanyOcean [14k\]: C17 secure ? GralAnibal [14k\]: and more points secured already Am [5d\]: yea..... krastakin [22k?\]: GA if you're going to start talking like that...you have no right to talk about russians not being here GralAnibal [14k\]: c 17 is a present Wagner [?\]: gral anibal wheres the second group w ist attacking alexfarc [2k\]: a nex move is T19 czarny [-\]: woulndt it be efficient for B to first attack the C7 gropus czarny [-\]: befero playing L6 ? ginsu [6k\]: a2 isn't ag ood attacking move if b moves around l6? Drimgere [5k\]: i don't think c7 can be attacked very strongly GralAnibal [14k\]: b is thinking... he has to have a good plan Drimgere [5k\]: but i am maybe wrong kozou [2k\]: this is sloooooow :> GoCowboy [?\]: you're not Am [5d\]: L6 difficult to NOT do moves like this.... tetris [-\]: c7 looks fine to me ginsu [6k\]: sure AM:) ] ;B[jq]CR[jq]C[ginsu [6k\]: this kid:) GoCowboy [?\]: fido or ilja ^ ^ EGC2005 [-\]: ^^ milka2 [8k\]: tesuji flavour ? kozou [2k\]: see cause W didnt k4 -.- Am [5d\]: b made a good step.... tetris [-\]: aha GoMe [5k\]: k4 pretty slow Drimgere [5k\]: looks like it kozou, but maybe if he lets black connect up on the left he'll have a better attack on the center alvin [11k\]: not good move DrunkenEgo [14k\]: isnt this on TV somewhere??? GoMe [5k\]: no wonder white played J5 alvin [11k\]: this can be counter EGC2005 [-\]: DRUNKEN: YES, ON MTV Drimgere [5k\]: heh, fido GoCowboy [?\]: the czech go-channel is broadcasting it live, so if u're in or near prague... GralAnibal [14k\]: b H3? GoMe [5k\]: lol calamari: not easy GralAnibal [14k\]: sorry w H3 kozou [2k\]: czech got a go-channel?? alvin [11k\]: 4 K Drimgere [5k\]: gocowboy, not to be stupid, but is there really a go channel? EGC2005 [-\]: NO snowman [-\]: neee alvin [11k\]: which country got go channel ? GoCowboy [?\]: umm yes, of course... NOT Drimgere [5k\]: oh :-( DanyOcean [14k\]: watching it on eurosport personnaly, their speed is beeing recorded Drimgere [5k\]: sorry, i was hoping tetris [-\]: japan has one Drimgere [5k\]: it's gotta happen sometime fingon [5k?\]: korea and japan do milka2 [8k\]: korea, china, japan,... DrunkenEgo [14k\]: MTV mmm only highlights I suppose :( ginsu [6k\]: i saw a photo of corean tv on the site Drimgere [5k\]: drunken, with eminem singing in the background GoMe [5k\]: EGC2005 do you have account on KGS (except EGC2005)? GoCowboy [?\]: i wish they had, tho, i would think about buying a tv-set again ^ ^ EGC2005 [-\]: YES- FIDO Drimgere [5k\]: ^-^ GoMe [5k\]: heh ok :) alvin [11k\]: fido? wauiwa [2d?\]: k3 is an overplay? EGC2005 [-\]: AND SOME PLAYING ACCOUNTS.. Gustavo9 [7d\]: k4 hyrae2 [1d?\]: korea czarny [-\]: fido-dido ? wauiwa [2d?\]: j4 riqui: K4 seems natural GralAnibal [14k\]: k3 is like trowing stone to tanks Hageh [3d?\]: nice move this k 3 ! i only thought of j2. calamari: let b crawl and link up ? alvin [11k\]: what other account ? ginsu [6k\]: good photo for the match of yesterday EGC, tight on the winning move :) Lifetec [1d\]: If you can attack the centre group hard enough i think thats playable Seneka1 [15k\]: EGC... look at the face of Dinershtein... how is he? dewey [1d\]: concentrate EGC2005 [-\]: CALMLY THINKING GralAnibal [14k\]: is he smiling? EGC2005 [-\]: NO GralAnibal [14k\]: like " poor kid" JnM [3k\]: lol Hageh [3d?\]: to keep the b center stones weak, w has to led b make some inroads into his bottom territory GralAnibal [14k\]: so K4 is ok DanyOcean [14k\]: Does the game finish today ? DrunkenEgo [14k\]: "don't touch what you wanna kill" Drimgere [5k\]: yes GralAnibal [14k\]: I hope GoCowboy [?\]: yes in about 4 h DanyOcean [14k\]: or they have many days ? Drimgere [5k\]: 2.5 hours each plus byo yomi olczyk [16k\]: EGC are they playing the same type of metal games as they did two days ago? Drimgere [5k\]: metal games olc? GoCowboy [?\]: huh, i like metal games Hageh [3d?\]: k4 - l3, l4 - j2 Gustavo9 [7d\]: maybe h3 GoCowboy [?\]: hand me that clamp olczyk [16k\]: Looking at other peoples games. Reading newspaper ... Drimgere [5k\]: oh, very nice gustavo EGC2005 [-\]: ^^ hyrae2 [1d?\]: how many time have both yet? alvin [11k\]: it's a waste that my friend did go for this competition Gustavo9 [7d\]: thx alvin [11k\]: *didn't Drimgere [5k\]: do you think black would respond on the left or try something like l4? a1akari [7k\]: I normaly take a pile of Cosmopolitan magazines to read during games :) GoMe [5k\]: hmm fido doesn;t make misclicks on IGS.. grr Seneka1 [15k\]: What is time reglament? Drimgere [5k\]: 2.5 horus each seneka Drimgere [5k\]: *hours EGC2005 [-\]: BLACK 1.57 w 1:39 alvin [11k\]: 4K Seneka1 [15k\]: uuuuuuuuuu Hageh [3d?\]: very entertaining, thanks to the players and the operator.Bye EGC2005 [-\]: ^^ olczyk [16k\]: So you said both. Tsche [1k\]: i not saw who won? hurrikaani [5d?\]: white won Tsche [1k\]: thx Goda [19k\]: thx ] ;W[ir]CR[ir]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: if w h3, b will l4 Gustavo9 [7d\]: oops GralAnibal [14k\]: direct Drimgere [5k\]: ah... Imvatim [7k?\]: hmm surprising GralAnibal [14k\]: no interludes GoMe [5k\]: tss Cornel watching on IGS instead of KGS.. GralAnibal [14k\]: no wonder hes a pro calamari: most agressive... EGC2005 [-\]: NO, I MEAN B 1:39 W 1:57 Imvatim [7k?\]: wants to attack bottom left too eh? olczyk [16k\]: They are showing this on IGS too? GoMe [5k\]: yes GoMe [5k\]: and EGC does not make misclicks on IGS :) GralAnibal [14k\]: J5 started the double attack tetris [-\]: bottom left fine, isn't it? EGC2005 [-\]: :) GralAnibal [14k\]: now left needs reinforcement, right? wauiwa [2d?\]: w A2 will be big Seneka1 [15k\]: Rustam S.... are you here? GralAnibal [14k\]: e2 ginsu [6k\]: for now, k4? Imvatim [7k?\]: hmm can b really start worrying about d3 group? GoCowboy [?\]: of course not GralAnibal [14k\]: yes Imvatim [7k?\]: seems like he has to fix n8 stones Mumie [1k?\]: L4 GralAnibal [14k\]: b k4 , w j4? next? ] ;B[lq]CR[lq]C[GoMe [5k\]: ah ok.. well EGC plays first on KGS and then IGS.. GoMe [5k\]: so that's good :) EGC2005 [-\]: ;) Masurao [12k?\]: Yes, that's why there is no missclick on igs :) olczyk [16k\]: I see EGC makes the moves here first. He likes us better. wauiwa [2d?\]: you can bet on IGS.. GoCowboy [?\]: this isnt the pandanet-tour after all calamari: so difficult now ! Imvatim [7k?\]: k4 rigt? alexfarc [2k\]: yes ginsu [6k\]: looks like b wants to split white, fearless Imvatim [7k?\]: don't see any other way to play GoCowboy [?\]: k5 Masurao [12k?\]: what is black aim ? DrunkenEgo [14k\]: use of q3 aji? Seneka1 [15k\]: intresting game EGC2005 [-\]: TO WIN I GUESS MASURAO alexfarc [2k\]: o yes tetris [-\]: sounds reasonable goal alvin [11k\]: still 4 K GoMe [5k\]: black wants to win? hmm alvin [11k\]: b 4K GoMe [5k\]: strange Hageh [3d?\]: o2 aji can make w nervous alvin [11k\]: w 4k ginsu [6k\]: k4, n4? herrubu [23k\]: kill s2? Seneka1 [15k\]: the game whas bought tetris [-\]: huh? calamari: didn't w read this branch ? GralAnibal [14k\]: so T1 is valid ? tetris [-\]: b can't kill s3 alexfarc [2k\]: o yes\] bucko [5k?\]: Oh cool. How did you get the names, EGC? EGC2005 [-\]: IM JUST GOOD BUCKO ^^ GoMe [5k\]: lol GoCowboy [?\]: names WITH spaces Naruto2006 [-\]: how much time does each player have calamari: M5 ^^ GoMe [5k\]: make offline sgf with names in the rules.. save it and upload it to the room. milka2 [8k\]: 2h 30 GoCowboy [?\]: m5 or k5 ] ;W[jp]CR[jp]C[GoCowboy [?\]: k4 :( DanyOcean [14k\]: lol bucko [5k?\]: Ah. tetris [-\]: k4? ] ;B[mp]CR[mp] ;W[lo]CR[lo]C[bucko [5k?\]: Anyone know how to make the timer work too? JnM [3k\]: resignation bucko [5k?\]: I'm sure I oonce managed to make times go down. calamari: ok ] ;B[mq]CR[mq]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: b dead? Seneka1 [15k\]: the game has been bought GralAnibal [14k\]: o2 alexfarc [2k\]: no Lifetec [1d\]: thats rather strange alexfarc [2k\]: is link ginsu [6k\]: for who jnm:)? kozou [2k\]: w cant cut? tetris [-\]: b alexfarc [2k\]: no calamari: feels so heavy for b... Lifetec [1d\]: b started out with 2 groups, 1 weak and 1 ok, and now hes trying to make a 3rd group GoCowboy [?\]: w hasnt too manmy libs himself GralAnibal [14k\]: O2 ] ;W[oq]CR[oq]C[GoCowboy [?\]: many ] ;B[mo]CR[mo] ;W[ln]CR[ln]C[Lifetec [1d\]: but the C3 group looks less solid as well ginsu [6k\]: b in a tight spot calamari: w reacted severely !! alexfarc [2k\]: vrey stupid for blackl GralAnibal [14k\]: c3 has now more ways to die tromp [3k?\]: l8 tetris [-\]: been in a tight spot for whole game DanyOcean [14k\]: w wont let that n8 group live like that Gustavo9 [7d\]: w l4 wouldnt work? Imvatim [7k?\]: hmm definitely not what black wanted alexfarc [2k\]: i dont like b Hageh [3d?\]: now w has really an attack going calamari: b regretting timing, eh ? DrunkenEgo [14k\]: m3 at J7 much lighter... ginsu [6k\]: if he lives on the two sides he's fine if not... Drimgere [5k\]: even if he lives, i think the struggle will finish him off GoCowboy [?\]: lunch time soon, alex likes his lunch at 12, correct? nitrogen [27k\]: so this is an currently ongoing match? alexfarc [2k\]: b. yanhai [5d\]: l8? wauiwa [2d?\]: m9 now? Imvatim [7k?\]: b must be sweating now Seneka1 [15k\]: are Dinershtein still does not smile & Seneka1 [15k\]: ? krastakin [22k?\]: cheeck EGC2005 user details Nitro Imvatim [7k?\]: no choice but run NahkahiiR [?\]: nitrogen: Yes but really slow. :) aditsu [9k?\]: no, it was played last month but EGC is replaying very slow to keep us tense DrunkenEgo [14k\]: names?EGC??? Imvatim [7k?\]: lol EGC2005 [-\]: ILJA SHIKSHIN 6D (B) vs ALEXANDRE DINERCHTEIN 1P calamari: O11 shining ! DrunkenEgo [14k\]: tx Drimgere [5k\]: EGC2005 is the full name ] ;B[kl]CR[kl]C[GralAnibal [14k\]: Alex is experienced teacher , I think he knows not to smile in front of the pupils EGC2005 [-\]: FIDO IS FULL NAME :) Drimgere [5k\]: l8 was beter before white got m6 i think GralAnibal [14k\]: :-) Drimgere [5k\]: doesn't make very nice shape anymore imo nitrogen [27k\]: krastakin: I dont want to krastakin [22k?\]: fine then ] ;W[il]CR[il]C[obelix1 [?\]: calamari: really scary miksas [2k\]: what about time spent? Gustavo9 [7d\]: hmmm Seneka1 [15k\]: SAHABUDINOV! Drimgere [5k\]: ? Hendrix [6k\]: this must be good for w right? ] ;B[kq]CR[kq] ;W[km]CR[km]C[nitrogen [27k\]: shashashashasharapova! Gustavo9 [7d\]: direct j8....... nice! Imvatim [7k?\]: woah EGC2005 [-\]: TIME LEFT: W 1:50 B 1:31 GralAnibal [14k\]: to the nose Drimgere [5k\]: hmmm, black playing into white's hand? hman [26k?\]: DannyOcean.. you mentioned Eurosposrt, which is transmitting volleyball now, couldn't find it in the schedule eithere... were you kidding or is this some other channel ? Imvatim [7k?\]: seem like this is the moment where's alex eyes sparkled GralAnibal [14k\]: is Ilja crying? Imvatim [7k?\]: lol Drimgere [5k\]: hman, i think it was a joke JnM [3k\]: ^ miksas [2k\]: tnx EGC hman [26k?\]: sob Seneka1 [15k\]: is Ilya very sad? yanhai [5d\]: l7? GoCowboy [?\]: of course not eurosport, on sky 3 tho... ohmygosh [6k\]: how old is black? GralAnibal [14k\]: hes looking for the tesuji book ] ;B[lm]CR[lm] ;W[jm]CR[jm]C[DanyOcean [14k\]: lol yanhai [5d\]: m10? DanyOcean [14k\]: no no Lupus [3k\]: n6 ] ;B[mn]CR[mn]C[Seneka1 [15k\]: 16 years opld!! olczyk [16k\]: Funny. No kibitz on IGS. GralAnibal [14k\]: "where is Sai now"? DanyOcean [14k\]: kidding DanyOcean [14k\]: sorry :( ohmygosh [6k\]: thx GoCowboy [?\]: o8? ] ;W[jn]CR[jn]C[calamari: w thick already, good for ko ] ;B[hp]CR[hp]C[hman [26k?\]: sky 3 ? Don't have it... english sky I suppose ? ] ;W[ip]CR[ip]C[Seneka1 [15k\]: yah... kidding Gustavo9 [7d\]: m10!! nitrogen [27k\]: no hman [26k?\]: double sob Lifetec [1d\]: hmm... GoCowboy [?\]: hmna, i doubt this event is on tv anywhere, just watch it live, here Drimgere [5k\]: yes....black has some initiative now thekro [10k?\]: is this game happening at the EGC? Lifetec [1d\]: seems tough for white to get enough territory Drimgere [5k\]: yes kro AxelJ [19k\]: o8 thekro [10k?\]: for a tournament? nitrogen [27k\]: no, for breakfast GralAnibal [14k\]: b M10, w..? wauiwa [2d?\]: don't you have a webcam, EGC? Drimgere [5k\]: white will run a little, but black will not have solved all his problems EGC2005 [-\]: NO... czarny [-\]: Illie is amazing :) wauiwa [2d?\]: pity deva [15k\]: what are b's problems? nitrogen [27k\]: dont you have capslock, EGC? GralAnibal [14k\]: no thekro [10k?\]: how strong is Ilya (EGF)? still 5-dan? EGC2005 [-\]: ILJA SHIKSHIN 6D (B) vs ALEXANDRE DINERCHTEIN 1P hijothema [?\]: good idea for next year: hang a webcam over the table lakisdizle [12k?\]: fido needs to yell over our racket Seneka1 [15k\]: 7D i think GoCowboy [?\]: he's 6d egf EGC2005 [-\]: ^^ thekro [10k?\]: so how's he doing here? Hageh [3d?\]: EGC, do u know whom Zhao Pei is playing today? ] ;B[lj]CR[lj]C[EGC2005 [-\]: NO, IM SORRY GralAnibal [14k\]: w D1 Seneka1 [15k\]: And Lee ki bong?? tetris [-\]: ?? d1? GralAnibal [14k\]: F2? kozou [2k\]: d1? :> thekro [10k?\]: Gral: seems a bit premature Hageh [3d?\]: time to play a2? GralAnibal [14k\]: d1 kills DrunkenEgo [14k\]: lunch time? toxxicu [7d\]: for european rating http://www.european-go.org/rating/gor.html EGC2005 [-\]: LEE KI-BONG vs KIM SE-YOUNG 6D Seneka1 [15k\]: they are playing? EGC2005 [-\]: YES thekro [10k?\]: where is the EGC this year? czarny [-\]: Prague olczyk [16k\]: this game? Tictactoe [-\]: very smart to be named young, especially when you getting 50 EGC2005 [-\]: PRAGUE EGC2005 [-\]: :D thekro [10k?\]: so this is late breakfast, then ;) grmaster [3k?\]: M10 works grmaster [3k?\]: W can't stop B escaping yanhai [5d\]: p11? a1akari [7k\]: B+97.5 according to SE yanhai [5d\]: p12? GralAnibal [14k\]: F5 GralAnibal [14k\]: or F2 JnM [3k\]: ? alvin [11k\]: SE is lously Seneka1 [15k\]: tomorrow we will see DINERSHTEIN VS LEE KI BONG it will be MEAT GRINDER ohmygosh [6k\]: how is k 11? alvin [11k\]: who is lee ki bong snowman [-\]: go professor Drimgere [5k\]: EGC will be kind enough to tell us if this is the sealed move? EGC2005 [-\]: TOMORROW DINER VS CATALIN HOPEFULLY :) Seneka1 [15k\]: THE best Korean player snowman [-\]: sorry, baduk professor wauiwa [2d?\]: p12 nice sente move GralAnibal [14k\]: w attack left first, then turn right EGC2005 [-\]: NO SEALING TODAY PROBABLY ] ;W[oh]CR[oh]C[ploppy [11k\]: leaky bong grmaster [3k?\]: wow GralAnibal [14k\]: me wrong Drimgere [5k\]: no sealing for lunch? ginsu [6k\]: ilja vs catalin :) thekro [10k?\]: thanks, ploppy Drimgere [5k\]: oh ^-^ olczyk [16k\]: When will they break for lunch? grmaster [3k?\]: good call about P12 yanhai calamari: sente ? yanng: yea i want to see catalin tomorrow :P alexfarc [2k\]: ya Seneka1 [15k\]: And when DINERSHTEI WITH TARANU? macisajt [9d\]: yeah alexfarc [2k\]: is ok! thelaura [?\]: catalin vs. ilja would be perfekt :) thekro [10k?\]: what are the time settings for this game? yanng: mm, i think i ll last longer watalin vs diner :) JnM [3k\]: 2h30 ans 1 min per move yanng: catalin* thelaura [?\]: catalin vs. ilja :) ] ;B[og]CR[og]C[yanng: diner yanng: ^^ grmaster [3k?\]: looks risky macisajt [9d\]: diner is bad for public health GralAnibal [14k\]: agresivo yanng: why? ^^ ] ;W[ng]CR[ng]C[ginsu [6k\]: thanks yang, i finally get the joke, diner is breakfast ] ;B[of]CR[of]C[Drimgere [5k\]: heh Seneka1 [15k\]: ooo its faster and faster PGPKane [25k\]: thank god Drimgere [5k\]: m12? lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol GralAnibal [14k\]: Alexander Dinerschtein Seneka1 [15k\]: n12 Gustavo9 [7d\]: l8! Drimgere [5k\]: L8? grmaster [3k?\]: lets think where W can get pts now GoMe [5k\]: who is leading? Gustavo9 [7d\]: l9 Tictactoe [-\]: illigal move you lost GralAnibal [14k\]: L8 is played Drimgere [5k\]: ah Seneka1 [15k\]: sorry i thin b will move grmaster [3k?\]: coz he needs in some compensation there GoCowboy [?\]: still l8 is a good move... grmaster [3k?\]: after B reducing at the bottom GralAnibal [14k\]: w F5 pls PGPKane [25k\]: L9 is good i think Seneka1 [15k\]: o8 mb? Lifetec [1d\]: definitly not o8 LivingEyes [9k\]: M12? wauiwa [2d?\]: a2 first? GralAnibal [14k\]: D1!!!! PGPKane [25k\]: M12. agreed ginsu [6k\]: k10 BETEP [7k?\]: i want to see L9 nitrogen [27k\]: I want to see game over calamari: L9 looks crude thekro [10k?\]: Gral: I think D1 will send the black group running into the centre, which is where white would probably like some territory ppppkkk: l11 Seneka1 [15k\]: EGC say to Diner M12 we decided lakisdizle [12k?\]: nitrogen: this game is far from being decided EGC2005 [-\]: OK Imvatim [7k?\]: lol... GralAnibal [14k\]: thekro, then block near F5 is not good? Seneka1 [15k\]: lol olczyk [16k\]: EGC when do they break for lunch? Seneka1 [15k\]: and cofee EGC2005 [-\]: THEY DONT HAVE BREAK calamari: good nitrogen [27k\]: lol grmaster [3k?\]: ouch HannaMecoe [4k\]: >shock< nitrogen [27k\]: I will then ---> macisajt [9d\]: why din.. on the first board? alexfarc [2k\]: is finish game catalin si comez? Seneka1 [15k\]: have they buterbroad? GoCowboy [?\]: not even a fast one? thekro [10k?\]: I think sealing the black D3 group from the top and forcing it to live on the side better than chasing it str17: WORK, SLAVES, THE SUN IS HIGH ] ;W[ar]CR[ar]C[str17: :) GoMe [5k\]: EGC: have they left the table at some moment?? PGPKane [25k\]: haha PGPKane [25k\]: woa GralAnibal [14k\]: yes HannaMecoe [4k\]: something completely different... a1akari [7k\]: time for dinner GralAnibal [14k\]: time for breakfast eristoff [6k\]: wauiwa wins grmaster [3k?\]: but people needs to eat somthing!!! ] ;B[nf]CR[nf]C[Seneka1 [15k\]: SHIKSHINA eat butterbroad on game Gustavo9 [7d\]: get some mcdonald burger while playing grmaster [3k?\]: even Go players grmaster [3k?\]: wow calamari: real action now !! ] ;W[li]CR[li]C[thekro [10k?\]: they have 2h30, they can go get something if they're hungry ;) grmaster [3k?\]: both got tenukied wauiwa [2d?\]: w perhaps get a double attack going on ] ;B[ki]CR[ki]C[GralAnibal [14k\]: W started double attack long time ago! Seneka1 [15k\]: mcdonald otstoy!!!! GralAnibal [14k\]: :-) yanhai [5d\]: m13? DrunkenEgo [14k\]: balance pls...? GralAnibal [14k\]: L10 Gustavo9 [7d\]: w played a2 before o14? grmaster [3k?\]: M13 only probably ginsu [6k\]: yes gustavo Seneka1 [15k\]: and If some one whant to PIPI Gustavo9 [7d\]: thx Seneka1 [15k\]: ? ] ;W[kh]CR[kh]C[grmaster [3k?\]: wow grmaster [3k?\]: very risky GoCowboy [?\]: no fear clair2lune [6k\]: d1 comes to livfe calamari: not really risky JnM [3k\]: risky PGPKane [25k\]: N11? DrunkenEgo [14k\]: W needs a kill to win...? alexfarc [2k\]: black win alexfarc [2k\]: a game Seneka1 [15k\]: URAAAA Kerrick [16k\]: weee infight Gustavo9 [7d\]: i like diner's style Seneka1 [15k\]: Black is good calamari: if b cut, just counter atari Tictactoe [-\]: oh this is the game Risk, watch out he has 4 cards and posibly he will put ten additional armies on the board Cobance [?\]: bla Drimgere [5k\]: heh krastakin [22k?\]: yay TTT!!! Seneka1 [15k\]: Black is Russian! JnM [3k\]: w too GoCowboy [?\]: so is white PGPKane [25k\]: lol GoMe [5k\]: White is Russion! alexfarc [2k\]: no whote Seneka1 [15k\]: no GoMe [5k\]: eh GoMe [5k\]: Russian :) measwel [13k\]: the ruskis are stong Seneka1 [15k\]: He is Evrey :) GoCowboy [?\]: both r, sit down, take a cookie HoiHoiSan [9k?\]: they should stick to chess :-p ] ;B[lh]CR[lh]C[a1akari [7k\]: mwuhahahaha PGPKane [25k\]: wowzers GralAnibal [14k\]: are they serious? or smiling? Seneka1 [15k\]: or stick to Chapaev ] ;W[lg]CR[lg] ;B[mi]CR[mi]C[measwel [13k\]: smiling in serious way I gues milka2 [8k\]: chess ? wargame with unpainted miniatures is boring grmaster [3k?\]: N13 thekro [10k?\]: n12? ] ;W[mh]CR[mh]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: atari! ] ;B[li]CR[li]C[grmaster [3k?\]: wow HoiHoiSan [9k?\]: and a wargame with ovoidal pieces? a1akari [7k\]: do they actually say Atari? grmaster [3k?\]: but now N14 PGPKane [25k\]: the players? Seneka1 [15k\]: war is BAD alexfarc [2k\]: for// AxelJ [19k\]: i would play l14 HoiHoiSan [9k?\]: go is a wargame... Seneka1 [15k\]: Irack war is very BAD GralAnibal [14k\]: now D 1pls measwel [13k\]: Every war is bad herrubu [23k\]: peace is conservating crime too grmaster [3k?\]: L16 better GralAnibal [14k\]: finish it soon Seneka1 [15k\]: no Go is not war game! kozou [2k\]: W gotta N14 or something :> alexfarc [2k\]: l17 grmaster [3k?\]: L16 better than L14 I guess lakisdizle [12k?\]: seneka: yes it is steinelos [3k\]: L13 GralAnibal [14k\]: Go is bloody game, -famous Dan player HoiHoiSan [9k?\]: it definetely is measwel [13k\]: K16? wauiwa [2d?\]: go is a game, nobody gets killed lakisdizle [12k?\]: but stoens do deft [4d?\]: seems B is doing really well... kozou [2k\]: some old samurai guy probably killed someone over a game of go :-) str17: Go is like mirror. If you want blood and fight - you will get it. Tictactoe [-\]: yes deft i think so too str17: If you want to peacefully share territories - you get it too GralAnibal [14k\]: b will lose hobnorably milka2 [8k\]: seems W has to add a move deft [4d?\]: I don't think so, Gral :) Kerrick [16k\]: se going crazy once more :-) alexfarc [2k\]: no god l16 GoCowboy [?\]: what if i want to share territorys, but my opponent doesnt? Seneka1 [15k\]: Go is Peace game becouse all captured will be free!!!! GralAnibal [14k\]: hehe deft [4d?\]: W has to defend against N14 ppppkkk: l13 ppppkkk: or k13 measwel [13k\]: L14 GoGoPlaya [19k\]: GO IS A PPEACE GAME? GoGoPlaya [19k\]: are you sure? str17: GoCowboy - "nado delitsya". "You must to share" :) thekro [10k?\]: all POWs are returned according to Japanese ru...er, the Geneva convention Seneka1 [15k\]: YEAH! GoGoPlaya [19k\]: gh GoGoPlaya [19k\]: hmmm... GoGoPlaya [19k\]: me not... GoGoPlaya [19k\]: this game was made to plan a war... Fabricate [17k\]: POWS are returned in Chinese not japanese:P measwel [13k\]: ah no measwel [13k\]: L14 bad thekro [10k?\]: fabricate: i'm referring to being returned to their own territory, not being put in a dark hole calamari: i can't find shape LivingEyes [9k\]: when do the players have a lunch break? measwel [13k\]: no L14 ok GralAnibal [14k\]: N 14 or tenuki yanhai [5d\]: n14? Gustavo9 [7d\]: n14 GralAnibal [14k\]: N14 the only move there? ] ;W[mf]CR[mf]C[milka2 [8k\]: so... herrubu [23k\]: yre hungry too living eyes ? so you ask? Kerrick [16k\]: b lives in sente calamari: not satisfying :( Kerrick [16k\]: sweet ginsu [6k\]: o14 sooo good kozou [2k\]: r6 now? LivingEyes [9k\]: I'm not hungry, I want to know when the break is so I can go to work x) Seneka1 [15k\]: read Yasuyuki Miura "Go: An Asian Paradigm for Business Strategy milka2 [8k\]: E6 ? kozou [2k\]: e6* grmaster [3k?\]: wow Grog [7k\]: not sente . A2 here grmaster [3k?\]: so simple defenceve move EGC2005 [-\]: LOOKS LIKE CATALINS GAME WILL END QUICKLY ^^ Gustavo9 [7d\]: c12!!! GralAnibal [14k\]: b bttom left not alive lakisdizle [12k?\]: whats hte latest word on the other games fido LivingEyes [9k\]: B1 for black milka2 [8k\]: who wins ? Catalin ? Fabricate [17k\]: well he is the highest Ranked at the EGC Gustavo9 [7d\]: stalin EGC2005 [-\]: YEA measwel [13k\]: G2? milka2 [8k\]: poor Pierre LivingEyes [9k\]: EGC: when is the lunchbreak? PGPKane [25k\]: he said there is none Fabricate [17k\]: wooo LivingEyes [9k\]: ah ok alvin [11k\]: SE is so lously AxelJ [19k\]: l14 or k14? Fabricate [17k\]: I am strongly cheering for my man breakfast alexfarc [2k\]: no isc1 alexfarc [2k\]: is c1 lakisdizle [12k?\]: you like breakfast more then roin fabricate? LivingEyes [9k\]: I'm rooting for Ilja markKo [16k\]: how strong is b macisajt [9d\]: me too kozou [2k\]: B got so many points o.o lakisdizle [12k?\]: 3d? measwel [13k\]: w needs to kill something Lupus [3k\]: 6d GoCowboy [?\]: he's 9d kgs, 6d egf Masakari [30k?\]: alvin: yup S +109,5 ;-) ginsu [6k\]: b12 then c1 game won? Seneka1 [15k\]: Ilya THE BEST thelaura [?\]: yes:) Grog [7k\]: if B defend bottom then yose will start.. ginsu [6k\]: i mean k12 AxelJ [19k\]: i do second seneka1 LivingEyes [9k\]: I feel B must B1 measwel [13k\]: this is enervating wauiwa [2d?\]: b j11 Koukkaaja [2k\]: what is the "best" aji in upper left for w? lakisdizle [12k?\]: what are the teams fido? GralAnibal [14k\]: w still has e14. e13? Seneka1 [15k\]: SHIKSHINS - ARE THE BEST SCHOOL IN EUROPE! calamari: C16, what else ? EGC2005 [-\]: WHICH TEAMS? GralAnibal [14k\]: I say outside, E13 GoCowboy [?\]: teams? lakisdizle [12k?\]: whos in dinersteins and whos on ilja's PGPKane [25k\]: EGC: How much time is left for each player? EGC2005 [-\]: W 1:33 b 1:08 alvin [11k\]: black live ? calamari: i used to like w, now difficult Seneka1 [15k\]: they are very live :) Ebyzz [15k?\]: whats b doing? just thinking all the time? grmaster [3k?\]: I think B has to defend his bottom group lakisdizle [12k?\]: yup alvin [11k\]: what is white situation now GoCowboy [?\]: i guess b's thinking payed off... Seneka1 [15k\]: EGC what Ilja doing? Masakari [30k?\]: whats abut L13? alvin [11k\]: thinking playm8 [8k?\]: reading newspaper i guess coffeeman [8k\]: lol ~ EGC2005 [-\]: THINKING Seneka1 [15k\]: may be went to eat ? playm8 [8k?\]: are you sure, didn't he fall asleep? Seneka1 [15k\]: lol alvin [11k\]: breakfast is losing ? lakisdizle [12k?\]: no B is thinking GralAnibal [14k\]: he is reading "Get strong at .." series Seneka1 [15k\]: medidation guxxan [6d\]: yo FIDO Fabricate [17k\]: LOL Grad lakisdizle [12k?\]: this is actually a nincredibly fast game compared to pro games Fabricate [17k\]: Get strong at Kibitz! kozou [2k\]: he is wondering why his game of chess look so strange today lakisdizle [12k?\]: pros will spend up to 20 minutes thinking on a move PGPKane [25k\]: well they can only do that so often.. coffeeman [8k\]: pros are dreaming good moves GoCowboy [?\]: educate us ^ ^ lakisdizle [12k?\]: in a simple situation Cobance [?\]: ilja is so strong player because he knows when to stop and think some time palestrina [5k\]: pros have six hours each? skawp [4k\]: does he move ? lakisdizle [12k?\]: PGP: they get 9 hours of play in one day normally milka2 [8k\]: in modern times, i think it was 3h30 thinking time on a signle move skawp [4k\]: maybe he's dead (starvation) Drimgere [5k\]: 8 plus 1 hour lunch no? milka2 [8k\]: *single PGPKane [25k\]: hm lakisdizle [12k?\]: i thought it was half hour lunch Seneka1 [15k\]: is FLAG on place? playm8 [8k?\]: maybe he's washing his stones calamari: ancient games would span over months alvin [11k\]: who will play with terror Drimgere [5k\]: i've waited on igs for at least an hour Drimgere [5k\]: of course they eat and drink tea all the tiem, and are always leaving on breaks Gustavo9 [7d\]: i like 2 day games! GralAnibal [14k\]: in ancient times the internet was so slow coffeeman [8k\]: ah! no Drimgere [5k\]: takao had his cake and ate it too in the last game of the honinbou Seneka1 [15k\]: are there GIRLS ? milka2 [8k\]: most of pro tournaments are one day tournament coffeeman [8k\]: lol Drim Drimgere [5k\]: seneka, girls would distract pros ;-) milka2 [8k\]: except 3 japanese titles coffeeman [8k\]: there's always a guy commenting their diner grmaster [3k?\]: C1 it seems lakisdizle [12k?\]: theres pair go Drimgere [5k\]: but there are womens' and men's versions of titles i think PGPKane [25k\]: assuming 200 moves in a game, you still only get about 25 moves an hour, which averages to about 2.5 minutes per move Drimgere [5k\]: at least there is a women's kisei i believe playm8 [8k?\]: wouldn't it be nice if they had a 7-course meal during the game? Gustavo9 [7d\]: kisei , meijin , honinbo finals r 2 day games GoCowboy [?\]: r female pros distracted by girls, too? Am [5d\]: not time oflunch yet? alvin [11k\]: lunch time ? Drimgere [5k\]: Am, yes i think they are eating Masakari [30k?\]: how long is he thinking about the next stone? alvin [11k\]: dinner time here Masakari [30k?\]: 15Min? GoMe [5k\]: there is not lunch. Drimgere [5k\]: or not? GoMe [5k\]: *no milka2 [8k\]: International tournaments are one day game Drimgere [5k\]: when will they eat then? GoMe [5k\]: never :) GralAnibal [14k\]: why ppl keep asking for lunch time? GoMe [5k\]: lol Seneka1 [15k\]: EGC!!! Are women play with men on EC ??? alvin [11k\]: 9M EGC2005 [-\]: DUNNO GoMe [5k\]: well alex eat at breakfast :) Fabricate [17k\]: lol Am [5d\]: first day they had a break for the lunch.... lakisdizle [12k?\]: seneka: therei s pair go where a male and female pro will team up and do rengo against another male female pro Drimgere [5k\]: yes, like 2 hours krastakin [22k?\]: hehe gome coffeeman [8k\]: women tournament: Kisei, Meijin and Honinbo Drimgere [5k\]: ah, thank you coffee coffeeman [8k\]: big one czarny [-\]: lunche break ? coffeeman [8k\]: probably have some smaller one nobody knows about ginsu [6k\]: what's the shape move for b on the down left? GoCowboy [?\]: but they compete in the normal tournaments, too macisajt [9d\]: who's egc 2005? Drimgere [5k\]: fido Seneka1 [15k\]: EGC.... what? GoCowboy [?\]: he's fido milka2 [8k\]: a bot GoCowboy [?\]: no bot coffeeman [8k\]: lol coffeeman [8k\]: that's why they are not eating milka2 [8k\]: soory, egc :-) Masakari [30k?\]: hehe Fabricate [17k\]: He is from another Dimension ] ;B[en]CR[en]C[Fabricate [17k\]: OooOoooOO Drimgere [5k\]: ah Drimgere [5k\]: finally Seneka1 [15k\]: OOOoo grmaster [3k?\]: wow GoMe [5k\]: EGC is some recorder which makes a lot of misclicks :-) hehehe lakisdizle [12k?\]: smart move coffeeman [8k\]: cool Masakari [30k?\]: wow he Ilja laid a stone... EGC2005 [-\]: :) milka2 [8k\]: found it ! found it ! Seneka1 [15k\]: lol )))))))))))))00 GralAnibal [14k\]: run Forrest run Fabricate [17k\]: did we say that from the begining? Fabricate [17k\]: there is no getting around pros... measwel [13k\]: who dares wins? grmaster [3k?\]: E6 looks good shape lakisdizle [12k?\]: i remember the last game of honinbo there were so many misclicks thekro [10k?\]: is he hoping to get that in sente before defending, or planning on sacrficing at the bottom? lakisdizle [12k?\]: one time they misclicked a whole sequence ] ;W[jh]CR[jh]C[ginsu [6k\]: it does;) herrubu [23k\]: yeaf if b base is safe Drimgere [5k\]: yes, right at the end lakis grmaster [3k?\]: now taking of B2 will be jut slow Drimgere [5k\]: but let's talk about this game Drimgere [5k\]: ;-) lakisdizle [12k?\]: drim: and a tthe beginning lakisdizle [12k?\]: and middle grmaster [3k?\]: *just GoCowboy [?\]: b has to win quick, or he'll face time-problems lakisdizle [12k?\]: both players getting rid of each others center territories GralAnibal [14k\]: I told you E13 area is key Drimgere [5k\]: is black behind on time EGC2005? EGC2005 [-\]: YES GralAnibal [14k\]: nobody listened lakisdizle [12k?\]: how much tiem left EGC EGC2005 [-\]: w 1:32 ginsu [6k\]: o2 is an eye? bucko [5k?\]: N3 alive? hurrikaani [5d?\]: what is the byo-yomi for this game? Drimgere [5k\]: 1 minute EGC2005 [-\]: B 1:05 +- Drimgere [5k\]: ah, thank you egc ] ;B[ji]CR[ji]C[GoCowboy [?\]: @gralanibal if u had no 'r' in ur name, "big anal al" would be an angram of ur name Drimgere [5k\]: gocowboy, please keep the chat decent GoCowboy [?\]: ^ ^sure lakisdizle [12k?\]: and on topic GoCowboy [?\]: i just like anagramms PGPKane [25k\]: lol ] ;W[ih]CR[ih]C[krastakin [22k?\]: lol Seneka1 [15k\]: EGC2005 ask please Dinershtein whether he wishes to surrender? ] ;B[ik]CR[ik]C[lakisdizle [12k?\]: seneka: why paunoX [-\]: lol measwel [13k\]: you can't ask that GralAnibal [14k\]: applebabie? PGPKane [25k\]: lol GralAnibal [14k\]: is you my dear apple? lakisdizle [12k?\]: W isnt far enough behind yet..... grmaster [3k?\]: J9 looks intresting milka2 [8k\]: J9 strange ? ginsu [6k\]: this group can't die Lifetec [1d\]: off course this wont die grmaster [3k?\]: its not EGC misclick?? czarny [-\]: what about E6 ? lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol Drimgere [5k\]: egc has only made one misclick, he's doing a good job, let's not criticize him Lupus [3k\]: it's normal move i think GoMe [5k\]: 2 lakisdizle [12k?\]: its all in good fun EGC2005 [-\]: R U GONNA ASK AFTEER EVERY MOVE WHETHER ITS MISCLICK??! GoMe [5k\]: 2 misclicks Drimgere [5k\]: leaning attack i think PGPKane [25k\]: K9? EGC2005 [-\]: :D PGPKane [25k\]: hahahha ] ;W[hk]CR[hk]C[lakisdizle [12k?\]: were gald to have someone competent runnig the machine lakisdizle [12k?\]: glad* fingon [5k?\]: after that comment I'm tempted to ask 'misclick?!?' every move. GoMe [5k\]: too bad EGC isn;t giving any comments on the game :( lakisdizle [12k?\]: grmaster woulda made atleast 5 by now =P EGC2005 [-\]: NOT IN COMMENTING MOOD ^^ Drimgere [5k\]: h10? Seneka1 [15k\]: EGC how are Ilja with Sasha ? clair2lune [6k\]: just put the missclick stones in red ;-) Seneka1 [15k\]: lol grmaster [3k?\]: well B has a problem then GoMe [5k\]: are there other people watching this game EGC? EGC2005 [-\]: YES grmaster [3k?\]: he needs in 1 more eye GoMe [5k\]: many? EGC2005 [-\]: 5 SPECTATORS HERE Saishuuhek [14k\]: thousands GoMe [5k\]: ok Seneka1 [15k\]: He driving our nose milka2 [8k\]: can't J16 stones be cut ? ] ;B[ij]CR[ij]C[grmaster [3k?\]: J10 natural GoMe [5k\]: can you still see cCatalin's game? EGC2005 [-\]: THEY R STILL PLAYIN GoMe [5k\]: ah ok so nobody is blocking your sight :) hehe grmaster [3k?\]: but then H10 will force B to make second gote eye? lakisdizle [12k?\]: svetlana competing this year? EGC2005 [-\]: I DONT SEE THE GAME palestrina [5k\]: dont distract the operator, please... GoMe [5k\]: oh too bad. czarny [-\]: she does as usual kimball [8d?\]: h 16 cut will be caught in geta Seneka1 [15k\]: EGC.... what you see ??? ginsu [6k\]: o2, o8 miai? EGC2005 [-\]: I SEE PIERRE AND CATALINS HEAD ^^ Seneka1 [15k\]: cool Seneka1 [15k\]: you are funny Tictactoe [-\]: aha taranu is playing koolmees coffeeman [8k\]: and most likely a computer screen too milka2 [8k\]: thx kimball see it now EGC2005 [-\]: TTT: COLMEZ AxelJ [19k\]: do the players shout the move, so you can type them in KGS? measwel [13k\]: who is koolmees? thekro [10k?\]: ginsu - does 02 make an eye? w can play m1? GoMe [5k\]: lol dutch joke ;-) ginsu [6k\]: then p2 Tictactoe [-\]: we always call him koolmees , it's a kind of bird Seneka1 [15k\]: Haw many notebooks there ? EGC2005 [-\]: 0 Q [9k\]: koolmees = Pierre Colmez? Seneka1 [15k\]: and you? measwel [13k\]: oh.. the mees that eats the cabbage? EGC2005 [-\]: CPU GoMe [5k\]: not laptop seneka1 thekro [10k?\]: o2, m1,p2, q2 GoMe [5k\]: Seneka1: http://www.goweb.cz/egc2005/foto/03_02.jpg ginsu [6k\]: n1 grmaster [3k?\]: seems B just alive now thekro [10k?\]: ah thekro [10k?\]: ok Seneka1 [15k\]: I cant copy this liza [-\]: hi everyone =) GoMe [5k\]: ctrl+c coffeeman [8k\]: great picture :D EGC2005 [-\]: HI LIZA :) liza [-\]: hiiii GoMe [5k\]: select and then ctrl+c lakisdizle [12k?\]: B definitly alive now? ] ;W[cr]CR[cr]C[krastakin [22k?\]: SE is a bit more on target now GoMe [5k\]: and paste with ctrl+v ] ;B[dr]CR[dr] ;W[bs]CR[bs]C[liza [-\]: egc: how are you today? grmaster [3k?\]: yose time? palestrina [5k\]: sort of sente for white, i guess. ginsu [6k\]: yes lakis EGC2005 [-\]: IM FINE THANK YOU, BUT ITS TOO HOT HERE ^^ liza [-\]: oh ] ;B[dm]CR[dm]C[liza [-\]: Im hot here to ^_^ EGC2005 [-\]: HAHA¨ lakisdizle [12k?\]: were all hot liza [-\]: yes =) GoMe [5k\]: buy a fan on USB :-) eristoff [6k\]: this game is hot paunoX [-\]: please keep the discussion decent ] ;W[cl]CR[cl]C[Seneka1 [15k\]: EGC! Is it your Bald head on foto? tukan [?\]: I agree it is hot like hell GoMe [5k\]: yes Seneka1 grmaster [3k?\]: H6 ? Gustavo9 [7d\]: g6 ] ;B[hl]CR[hl]C[blacklabel [19k\]: hi. may i ask whos playing? lakisdizle [12k?\]: interesting thought W might be territory there ginsu [6k\]: this kid!!! EGC2005 [-\]: YES thekro [10k?\]: look just above the comment box liza [-\]: hi gustavoo =) blacklabel [19k\]: and? :) EGC2005 [-\]: ILJA SHIKSHIN 6D (B) vs ALEXANDRE DINERCHTEIN 1P EGC2005 [-\]: :) blacklabel [19k\]: thx coffeeman [8k\]: oh, wow Seneka1 [15k\]: two kids are playing ] ;W[jl]CR[jl]C[Uriel [-\]: lol paunoX [-\]: please keep the dans away and let the 15kyus comment fingon [5k?\]: alex is hardly kid.. TheUnknown [14k?\]: ? how old is Alexandre? EGC2005 [-\]: 25 liza [-\]: alexander mean to defend? Seneka1 [15k\]: very hardly :) lakisdizle [12k?\]: ilja is a kid though TheUnknown [14k?\]: he's pretty good for his age though ^^ ] ;B[kk]CR[kk]C[Drimgere [5k\]: alexander means defender of man palestrina [5k\]: righ ove Uriel [-\]: black has to play painful moves Seneka1 [15k\]: I' am 24 and Iam a kid :) yet PGPKane [25k\]: wait, those people in the picture -- they're not the ones playing now are they? lakisdizle [12k?\]: drim: thought it was conquerer =P ] ;W[hm]CR[hm] ;B[gl]CR[gl] ;W[gm]CR[gm]C[liza [-\]: :P grmaster [3k?\]: why B needs that cut? Drimgere [5k\]: no alvin [11k\]: white is losing lakisdizle [12k?\]: drim doesnt get the joke GoMe [5k\]: PGPKane, the right is.. the left is not alex ;-) grmaster [3k?\]: it looks just dangerous lakisdizle [12k?\]: -_- Drimgere [5k\]: i do ;-) PGPKane [25k\]: yeah that's what i figured... PGPKane [25k\]: dumb question lol GoMe [5k\]: hehe :) Seneka1 [15k\]: white are nevouse nechio [2d\]: PHOTOS from EGC 2005 ... http://www.egc-2005-prague.com liza [-\]: EGC: who are you? ^_^ GoMe [5k\]: fido palestrina [5k\]: whoite seems behind concerning territory... EGC2005 [-\]: IM FIDO :) liza [-\]: fido who? thekro [10k?\]: fido on kgs Gustavo9 [7d\]: b will resign soon EGC2005 [-\]: JUST FIDO lakisdizle [12k?\]: fido lassie? czarny [-\]: pay attentionj to the game EGC :) palestrina [5k\]: but isnt that what we want to see from pros tukan [?\]: jeeee cau fido EGC2005 [-\]: CAU :) tukan [?\]: tak jak to jde? ] ;B[gk]CR[gk]C[ginsu [6k\]: h8 was that bad gustavo ? liza [-\]: I call my dog fido sumtimes =) its cute EGC2005 [-\]: ^^ tukan [?\]: liza: does it fly? liza [-\]: no Gustavo9 [7d\]: just gessing heh ginsu [6k\]: :) tukan [?\]: well then it is no fido :)) liza [-\]: well, he tried once EGC2005 [-\]: :) lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol lakisdizle [12k?\]: can fido fly? grmaster [3k?\]: G5 ? liza [-\]: out the window :S tukan [?\]: ^___< lakisdizle [12k?\]: bigger moves then G5 right now liza [-\]: hm ginsu [6k\]: well, killing can b big EGC2005 [-\]: NEXT MOVE? :) Seneka1 [15k\]: Ilya will be champion lakisdizle [12k?\]: yes give us the next move ginsu [6k\]: tr1 grmaster [3k?\]: G5 next GoMe [5k\]: T1 ;-) ginsu [6k\]: t1 tukan [?\]: g5 kimball [8d?\]: f7 herrubu [23k\]: praha "fall out the window" in 1618 Seneka1 [15k\]: are bookmakers on this competition? Ebyzz [15k?\]: a1 ^^ Gustavo9 [7d\]: hi liza eristoff [6k\]: i would play E8 tukan [?\]: you mean defenestration grmaster [3k?\]: F7 less eye shape ] ;W[fo]CR[fo]C[coffeeman [8k\]: do we have a chance to see Shikshin vs Shikshin on first board? >_> grmaster [3k?\]: wow liza [-\]: hi gustavo =) tukan [?\]: damn :)) lakisdizle [12k?\]: W is very bold fingon [5k?\]: he doesn't have choice really tukan [?\]: fido do you think it is alive tukan [?\]: ? grmaster [3k?\]: they choose very aggressive moves EGC2005 [-\]: DUNNO Gustavo9 [7d\]: b is in reouble! coffeeman [8k\]: reouble! Gustavo9 [7d\]: trouble grmaster [3k?\]: game is far from calm hugogogo [4k\]: what's black's rank? where is he from? EGC2005 [-\]: ILJA SHIKSHIN 6D (B) vs ALEXANDRE DINERCHTEIN 1P Seneka1 [15k\]: RUSSIA !!!!!!!!!! polonez [9k\]: Russia hugogogo [4k\]: ok thx lakisdizle [12k?\]: 9d kgs roin111 6d EGF ilja shikshin Seneka1 [15k\]: the best i think tukan [?\]: which is colony of the Czech Republic :)) Q [9k\]: it's roln111 GoMe [5k\]: 1p kgs breakfast 9d? kgs backpast :-) palestrina [5k\]: do you think white can catch up without any further big killings? Gustavo9 [7d\]: isnt it vice versa....? ginsu [6k\]: looks as if your guess was goog gustavo:) Seneka1 [15k\]: is Czech bigger Lihtenshtein ? ginsu [6k\]: good palestrina [5k\]: i guess. liza [-\]: anyone seen mumu...? tukan [?\]: Seneka you bet we have the russia there ;) lakisdizle [12k?\]: once Gustavo9 [7d\]: russia ows czech!? no? Gustavo9 [7d\]: owns* EGC2005 [-\]: NO :) tukan [?\]: LOL :)) no way Seneka1 [15k\]: ye yes measwel [13k\]: Owes would be correct wauiwa [2d?\]: how can black live? palestrina [5k\]: yuki is there, why is seijo sensei not at the congress? Tictactoe [-\]: not anymore the russian tanks got rusty lakisdizle [12k?\]: hehe measwel [13k\]: Russia owes Chech is correct tukan [?\]: well actually the story is they were out of Vodka liza [-\]: ? liza [-\]: that sounds bad Tictactoe [-\]: and besides with the current petrol price it's anyhow to expensive to move them around measwel [13k\]: Well as far as petrol is concerned, that is NOT Russias problem liza [-\]: hi tictac =) potop [6k?\]: vodka - good liza [-\]: lets not talk alchohol in front of the children ^_^ EGC2005 [-\]: AWW tukan [?\]: ^__< lakisdizle [12k?\]: hey wolchengi do you think W can kill? thelaura [?\]: EGC, is catalins game over? :) Seneka1 [15k\]: Wiske - PYLO DLA LOHOV paunoX [-\]: ttt: that is why putin taking the oil companies under his control ;-) EGC2005 [-\]: NOT YET tukan [?\]: fido ... you didn't hear anything :) Aleksm [5k?\]: is black alive? EGC2005 [-\]: YEP blacklabel [19k\]: connect to live? palestrina [5k\]: not yet. tukan [?\]: sa hyrae2 [1d?\]: catalin play against who? ginsu [6k\]: do you think b can live correct EGC2005 [-\]: PIERRE COLMEZ Tictactoe [-\]: koolmees ] ;B[eo]CR[eo] ;W[fm]CR[fm]C[GoMe [5k\]: heh hyrae2 [1d?\]: and what happened? hyrae2 [1d?\]: who is better hyrae2 [1d?\]: ? grmaster [3k?\]: seems game is over Am [5d\]: EGC how Colmec is staying in his game? EGC2005 [-\]: LOSING ] ;B[hr]CR[hr]C[Am [5d\]: thx.... Tictactoe [-\]: ilya is lost too Seneka1 [15k\]: no Am [5d\]: looks like that.... ] ;W[fr]CR[fr]C[grmaster [3k?\]: killing liza [-\]: hm grmaster [3k?\]: seems W see the finall board if he plays moves like this grmaster [3k?\]: *sees Seneka1 [15k\]: G9 was BAD ? ] ;B[is]CR[is]C[palestrina [5k\]: oh oh ginsu [6k\]: h8 was Lifetec [1d\]: thats definitly a plus if you play so solid, that you can kill these kind of groups ] ;W[jr]CR[jr]C[palestrina [5k\]: well... grmaster [3k?\]: B just eluminated 1 eye to his other group wolchengi [9d\]: if breakfast goes to EGC next year wolchengi [9d\]: ^^ wolchengi [9d\]: i hope he will EGC2005 [-\]: HELLO WOLCHIE :) wolchengi [9d\]: hi EGC wolchengi [9d\]: are you drooling? dreaming of killing these strong players? Xris [-\]: haha liza [-\]: I will next year =) EGC2005 [-\]: ? Gustavo9 [7d\]: my guess was probably correct i had the sick feeling when b abondoned the group Seneka1 [15k\]: wolchengi)) are you playing on EGC ? JnM [3k\]: no wolchengi [9d\]: EGC, is it not your dream to be a strong player? perhaps enough to give white 2 handi? wolchengi [9d\]: wait, is this a different EGC? EGC2005 [-\]: OF COURSE :) EGC2005 [-\]: NO IM STILL THE SAME palestrina [5k\]: haha wolchengi [9d\]: ah ok GoMe [5k\]: still the one with the misclicks.. blacklabel [19k\]: its egc 2004. kinda outdated ;) calamari: is b dead ? wolchengi [9d\]: i try to remember people's dream ] ;B[dl]CR[dl]C[wolchengi [9d\]: because that is what makes us liza [-\]: =) liza [-\]: I want to go to the moon ^_^ Seneka1 [15k\]: wolchengi))) are b is dead ? wolchengi [9d\]: so i hope someday liza [-\]: thats my dream, and play go there Saishuuhek [14k\]: get $100million and you can liza lol JnM [3k\]: lol wolchengi [9d\]: EGC is baduk master wolchengi [9d\]: ^^ EGC2005 [-\]: OF COURSE milka2 [8k\]: W has not fully two eyes ? grmaster [3k?\]: well W group is not safe too wolchengi [9d\]: he goes far enough to fantasize while his players are in agony measwel [13k\]: E9? Tictactoe [-\]: E9? czarny [-\]: there would a problem with playing baduk on the moon Drimgere [5k\]: white group should be ok even if h6 GoMe [5k\]: E9? wolchengi [9d\]: it would be like me recording Lee Sedol and Choi Cheol Han's game and thinking about me holding the final trophy ^^ Tictactoe [-\]: yes inddes thought aboutt it too measwel JnM [3k\]: w ok grmaster [3k?\]: if B cuts it off then B just L5 L4 H6 H5 G6 and W has 1 eye too Drimgere [5k\]: czarny, magnetic board set Masakari [30k?\]: ah wolchengi is back :) Seneka1 [15k\]: wolchengi.... WHO IS BETTER THERE ? GralAnibal [14k\]: w czarny [-\]: does magnes works in space ? czarny [-\]: magnet Drimgere [5k\]: umm, yes coffeeman [8k\]: why not GralAnibal [14k\]: lol tukan [?\]: My bet is on white ;)) tukan [?\]: I have to go Kerrick [16k\]: magnet go = space go EGC2005 [-\]: CYA measwel [13k\]: They work in reverse blacklabel [19k\]: no one has ever been to moon ;) wolchengi [9d\]: white tukan [?\]: see you fido :)) maybe I'll stop by lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol tromp [3k?\]: d9 EGC2005 [-\]: OKI BYE olczyk [16k\]: No. The magnetic lines of force are cut by the ether. liza [-\]: anyone ever played go in space? GoMe [5k\]: black resigned? ;-) measwel [13k\]: bye? wolchengi [9d\]: next year; i will go to Rome with an army of strong players Kerrick [16k\]: yes coffeeman [8k\]: cosmic go Lifetec [1d\]: is it in rome next year? measwel [13k\]: what happened? Pento [14k\]: in space white has to beware of black holes liza [-\]: what army is that? milka2 [8k\]: no accomodation next year... lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol GoCowboy [?\]: yes, 50th egc is in rome in 2006 czarny [-\]: floating stones may look nice Lifetec [1d\]: cool Lifetec [1d\]: hope i can go then milka2 [8k\]: just hotels in the city Lifetec [1d\]: ^^ palestrina [5k\]: 2007 where? Seneka1 [15k\]: Волче какой-то балабол помойму czarny [-\]: I wonder how many people go to Italy GoCowboy [?\]: dunno lakisdizle [12k?\]: does that mean your going to cultivate kgs wolchengi? EGCReferee [-\]: .. Tictactoe [-\]: villach? czarny [-\]: the place with two different baduk organizations :) wolchengi [9d\]: ^^ Gustavo9 [7d\]: d9 palestrina [5k\]: villach? wolchengi [9d\]: only the people of kgs could do that wolchengi [9d\]: by studying hard~ bucko [5k?\]: He will turn us into a massive baduk army. Fabricate [17k\]: you can start by making me 9d Wolchengi :P tukan [?\]: Siegene zkontroluj si PM /me over and out lakisdizle [12k?\]: that would be cool bucko [5k?\]: And take over the world! wolchengi [9d\]: if i have enough money wolchengi [9d\]: i will take some baduk friends~ GoMe [5k\]: hmm EGC pick a stone from white's basket and put it on E9 ;-) Tictactoe [-\]: i heard austria villach proposed to organise the egc2007 norb [11k\]: right Seneka1 [15k\]: wolchengi are you KOREAN? Tictactoe [-\]: but i ain't sure they are being choosen lakisdizle [12k?\]: how do you take a bid for those kind of things? lakisdizle [12k?\]: make* Fabricate [17k\]: Wol if you are gonna make KGS strong you can start with me :p coffeeman [8k\]: put a 5$ on a number and cross your fingers emk [4k\]: i think they are ttt PGPKane [25k\]: man wolchengi [9d\]: i wish someday it is in Switazerland liza [-\]: anyone want bamse mums :P romanp [-\]: it's already decided for 2007 - Austria and 2008 - Sweden norb [11k\]: the austrian pro dan told me that palestrina [5k\]: 2008 i´m in norb [11k\]: ha ha ha GoMe [5k\]: when is it in Netherlands :-) wolchengi [9d\]: *mistype AxelJ [19k\]: Austria is a bit like switzerland. Tictactoe [-\]: thx romanp Hageh [3d?\]: f2 also makes the w group alive lakisdizle [12k?\]: fab: wol should teach those 1d's and those 1d's should teach the 10k's and the 10k's should teach us lakisdizle [12k?\]: till we all move up thelaura [?\]: EGC, how many time have the player got now? czarny [-\]: Ferry ride :) czarny [-\]: to Sweeden Seneka1 [15k\]: Tthe command EC was in Russia Fabricate [17k\]: I don't wanna learn froma 10k polonez [9k\]: ;) czarny [-\]: kewl wolchengi [9d\]: i have Mont Blanc pen? lakisdizle [12k?\]: wolchengi is to stong to teach us Cobance [?\]: 2009 in Serbia EGC2005 [-\]: W 1:14 B 0:51 Fabricate [17k\]: naw he's not wauiwa [2d?\]: w D9 thelaura [?\]: thx wolchengi [9d\]: Germany too Fabricate [17k\]: you're never to strong to teach freeks [20k?\]: villach tournament 2005 was great wolchengi [9d\]: germany would be nice liza [-\]: I want to fight wolchen in martial arts ^_^ Gustavo9 [7d\]: d9 and g9 will die milka2 [8k\]: 2032 in Vatican Fabricate [17k\]: lol liza [-\]: I know I would win =) palestrina [5k\]: yes germany...# wolchengi [9d\]: i met a gentleman from germany who is baduk teacher over here JnM [3k\]: 2072 in turkmenistan wolchengi [9d\]: someday i will ride motorcycle on autoban? wolchengi [9d\]: ^^ norb [11k\]: 2323 Mars coffeeman [8k\]: in 4873 in Canada -_- lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol herrubu [23k\]: you can stay in my flat in berli9n and teach me go wolchengi :) spingle [8k?\]: b is dead right? wolchengi [9d\]: you must take me to the autoban~ GoCowboy [?\]: mototrcycle on autobahn is scary Drimgere [5k\]: coffee, since when are we in europe? :p blacklabel [19k\]: only fun in germany autobahn ;) Gustavo9 [7d\]: 2009 - albania herrubu [23k\]: i would palestrina [5k\]: black is about dead, but not yet - am i right? JnM [3k\]: 2009 belgium coffeeman [8k\]: in 4873 I figured we'll be in Europe romanp [-\]: Nominations for 2009: Netherlands, Serbia, Belgium spingle [8k?\]: he IS dead i rekon herrubu [23k\]: and we go ice climbing herrubu [23k\]: :) spingle [8k?\]: wd9 Fabricate [17k\]: blacklabel what about ocktoberfest? GoMe [5k\]: yay! Drimgere [5k\]: we can't move canada to europe... wolchengi [9d\]: oooh iceclimbing where? blacklabel [19k\]: oktoberfest is not nice Drimgere [5k\]: still a differente continent GoMe [5k\]: 2009 netherlands!! :) czarny [-\]: Netherlands :) milka2 [8k\]: Not in Canada, it's European Congress... unless Québec comes back to France coffeeman [8k\]: well, continents are moving, right? spingle [8k?\]: only option to escape is to loose g9 witchdoc [16k\]: what?s so fun about autobahn? when you go fast you have to somehow avoid the trucks that illegally use two lanes,., herrubu [23k\]: in two weeks i go mont blanc coffeeman [8k\]: >_> JnM [3k\]: <_< wolchengi [9d\]: herrubu is a climber? GoCowboy [?\]: we might make canadians europeans honoris causa Hageh [3d?\]: if c6 is sente for b, he can live blacklabel [19k\]: autobahnis fun when empty and no speed limit ;) federles [-\]: it is called "autobahn" and "oktoberfest" herrubu [23k\]: hm not really a climber but :) coffeeman [8k\]: maybe we can build a bridge or something lakisdizle [12k?\]: if US go congress ever comes to SLC i can take you hiking Wolchengi spingle [8k?\]: ahhh Pope [9d?\]: madre mio et spiritu sancti spingle [8k?\]: thanks liza [-\]: well, time to play baduk!! :D witchdoc [16k\]: it's almost never empty^^ spingle [8k?\]: if ;) coffeeman [8k\]: nice, pope's 9d blacklabel [19k\]: but sometimes it is ;) proedilent [13k\]: EGC how are the times wolchengi [9d\]: thx blacklabel [19k\]: oktoberfest is not fun. too many drunk people pissing all over the place EGC2005 [-\]: I SAID THEM A WHILE AGO... gomax [3k\]: autobahn is for kyu riders EGC2005 [-\]: W 1:11 milka2 [8k\]: waow, Benedictus XVI is 9d lakisdizle [12k?\]: hmmmm EGC2005 [-\]: B 0:51 proedilent [13k\]: thx a lot lakisdizle [12k?\]: canB connect? liza [-\]: ^_^ norb [11k\]: in austria beer is very cheap, thats the reason wye they choose us in 2007 GoMe [5k\]: what si wrong with wE9? blacklabel [19k\]: hihi Hageh [3d?\]: perhaps w starts with d4 the capture of e 3 is big, but is the w group alive thereafter? Tamsin [5k\]: I think benedict VI is more like nine-ty than nine-d vibularm [5k\]: well hi my liza!@@@ herrubu [23k\]: in austria beer is very bad Drimgere [5k\]: heh tam palestrina [5k\]: wiener schnitzel in austria - also recommendable. coffeeman [8k\]: lol ~ liza [-\]: hi vibularm milka2 [8k\]: lol liza [-\]: Im not yours you know! norb [11k\]: you are cracy in austria beer delicious lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol Fabricate [17k\]: bbl herrubu [23k\]: wich pls? JnM [3k\]: belgium beer blacklabel [19k\]: in germany more choice of better beer ^^ norb [11k\]: like water wolchengi [9d\]: this computer is too slow herrubu [23k\]: belgium beer is jst crazy wolchengi [9d\]: i will go to PC cafe~ palestrina [5k\]: beer is delicious everywhere, if you can get some, finally ( )... Charro [1k\]: Who's plaing?????? Aleksm [5k?\]: what time left? EGC2005 [-\]: ILJA SHIKSHIN 6D (B) vs ALEXANDRE DINERCHTEIN 1P wolchengi [9d\]: see you guys~ ^^ cre [20k\]: blacklabel: not german...bavaria ;) Drimgere [5k\]: alek, he just said lakisdizle [12k?\]: take care blacklabel [19k\]: no all german ;) except koelsch Cobance [?\]: in Serbia beer is very good and very cheap GoCowboy [?\]: not bavaria, germany Drimgere [5k\]: w 1:11 b 0:51 polonez [9k\]: polish beer is the best;) vibularm [5k\]: be care liza Cobance [?\]: egc 2009 in Serbia GoCowboy [?\]: and: NOT except koelsch Aleksm [5k?\]: thanks GoCowboy [?\]: except alt, perhaps herrubu [23k\]: czech beer is best stuff :) Hageh [3d?\]: belgium beer is great! But the best is Schlappeseppl, it won the international beer contest Kyowame [21k?\]: koelsch isnt beer ;) ] ;W[bd]CR[bd]C[blacklabel [19k\]: koelsch is like alt is like useless ;) Gustavo9 [7d\]: 2010 hungary GoMe [5k\]: hmm ok E9 not good indeed.. milka2 [8k\]: W thinking a lot Drimgere [5k\]: can we keep the chat more game related please lakisdizle [12k?\]: woah lakisdizle [12k?\]: can he live in sente? palestrina [5k\]: white prepares for final battle norb [11k\]: germany mayby got the best beer in the world blacklabel [19k\]: games and beer go hand in hand ;) palestrina [5k\]: yose. Seneka1 [15k\]: and YOU all think that W will WIN?? Hageh [3d?\]: Now w can win any ko ! palestrina [5k\]: yes Ebyzz [15k?\]: living is allways yose ;) GoMe [5k\]: hmm.. E9 does work.. Ebyzz [15k?\]: gote sry Ebyzz [15k?\]: xD Hageh [3d?\]: Schlappeseppl is a german geer alvin [11k\]: white can win ????? vibularm [5k\]: bb15 milka2 [8k\]: heard about the free beer ? Dibbun [13k\]: free beer? where? hijothema [?\]: not free. open source witchdoc [16k\]: free beer is the best beer, almost no matter what brand^^ czarny [-\]: in POland is like for free blacklabel [19k\]: open source beer .... lol, czarny [-\]: so cheap and tasty milka2 [8k\]: "free" as free sotware ginsu [6k\]: if b e9 w surely counted he can win the game on points lakisdizle [12k?\]: i think W wans B to live while he gets a lot of ponts elsewhere hijothema [?\]: the recipe is open source milka2 [8k\]: yes, open source beer norb [11k\]: wy the congress is not in poland czarny [-\]: it was last year czarny [-\]: everyone enjoyed it norb [11k\]: ok thx michele [1k?\]: ko? czarny [-\]: especially Inoue (8pro) cre [20k\]: b l16 isn't important? Douwe [7k\]: the game looks roughly equal to me Drimgere [5k\]: czarny, inoue what is the full name? freeks [20k?\]: don't speak too much 'cause it can hurt afterwards :) eristoff [6k\]: cre: not at this stage blacklabel [19k\]: l16 small. bigger moves palestrina [5k\]: good rough estimation, i guess GralAnibal [14k\]: not much comment from dan player tonight Gustavo9 [7d\]: b15 Drimgere [5k\]: b15, d18? GralAnibal [14k\]: thx czarny [-\]: Kaname Inoue Drimgere [5k\]: or v18 milka2 [8k\]: http://www.voresoel.dk/ Drimgere [5k\]: *b18 norb [11k\]: they dont have a clue what is going on dan p. Drimgere [5k\]: thanks czarny Seneka1 [15k\]: Gustavo9... who will win ? czarny [-\]: no problem palestrina [5k\]: have a soup, bfore yose. czarny [-\]: 8 pro from kansai-kiin Drimgere [5k\]: ah kansaii, don't hear much from them norb [11k\]: even 9p have to die Hageh [3d?\]: perhaps b can live in sente at the bottom - w has to live with his group too, then he can fight the ko at the top thekro [10k?\]: challenger for the gosei was from kansai-kiin ] ;B[be]CR[be]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: diner will win! GralAnibal [14k\]: w cant lose palestrina [5k\]: how certain? lakisdizle [12k?\]: of course Drimgere [5k\]: c18 to live? EGCReferee [-\]: FIDO: Jak jsou na tom s casem? ] ;W[bb]CR[bb]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: no lakisdizle [12k?\]: right now i think W is stronger Gustavo9 [7d\]: b18 is the typical shape here Adin [4k\]: so we'll likely have Taranu - Dinerchtein tomorrow lakisdizle [12k?\]: but come 4 or 5 years roin ilja will be a tiger Drimgere [5k\]: ah, right, tripod dies here Drimgere [5k\]: thank you gustavo EGC2005 [-\]: REF: DINO 1:08 S: 0:50 Gustavo9 [7d\]: welcome cre [20k\]: a17? EGCReferee [-\]: THX Gustavo9 [7d\]: c18 Gustavo9 [7d\]: c16 i mean cre [20k\]: mmh but atari Drimgere [5k\]: ahhh cre [20k\]: a okay Drimgere [5k\]: heh JnM [3k\]: ko ] ;B[ha]CR[ha] ;W[ja]CR[ja]C[Seneka1 [15k\]: g14 ] ;B[ga]CR[ga] ;W[ia]CR[ia]C[grmaster [3k?\]: crazy game grmaster [3k?\]: W wants ko? Drimgere [5k\]: ko seems to favor white JnM [3k\]: W cant lose now grmaster [3k?\]: yeah Drimgere [5k\]: uh, i mean white is in a good position to fight ko lakisdizle [12k?\]: L16 pretty big now grmaster [3k?\]: since W has alot of huge threats JnM [3k\]: ^^ Gustavo9 [7d\]: a17? colen [7k\]: w needs live GralAnibal [14k\]: w wins with ko or without it gomax [3k\]: so, what is the state of e4 group? colen [7k\]: w is behind blacklabel [19k\]: l16 f8? AmirTheSai [4k\]: e9 kill d2? lakisdizle [12k?\]: i say let it live in gote milka2 [8k\]: K 14 ? grmaster [3k?\]: good idea to switch to the corner in any case Gustavo9 [7d\]: i think a17 can kill? Alkibiades: +- grmaster [3k?\]: B will get tired while trying to kill it Hageh [3d?\]: difficult game, i would not predict a result Tsche [1k\]: sorrz who play here? Tsche [1k\]: sorry Lifetec [1d\]: tsche, look at the names... Drimgere [5k\]: tsche, look at the names nechio [2d\]: PHOTOS from EGC 2005 ... http://www.egc-2005-prague.com EGC2005 [-\]: ILJA SHIKSHIN 6D (B) vs ALEXANDRE DINERCHTEIN 1P grmaster [3k?\]: killing is more harder thing than just surviving I guess lakisdizle [12k?\]: breakfast and roin111 michele [1k?\]: read egc2005 Tsche [1k\]: thx GralAnibal [14k\]: the names are up here this chat grmaster [3k?\]: so W will make B tired and then will come back to E6 group ] ;B[dk]CR[dk]C[grmaster [3k?\]: hum ] ;W[db]CR[db]C[Drimgere [5k\]: gutsy AhSayuni [11k\]: lol GralAnibal [14k\]: b is the light cavalry, w is panzers grmaster [3k?\]: unexpected ] ;B[eb]CR[eb]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: hmm maybe a17 is overplay cre [20k\]: now live, or? without ko snowmen [2d\]: Black is smal Drimgere [5k\]: doesn't it work with d18 and then b19 gustavo? grmaster [3k?\]: B11 probably cre [20k\]: w now c19? grmaster [3k?\]: W has enough now Gustavo9 [7d\]: d9 is a good move alexfarc [2k\]: what did catalin? Gustavo9 [7d\]: avoiding ko ginsu [6k\]: l16 gote but getting big now cre [20k\]: or d19 is better :) Gustavo9 [7d\]: samrt tenuki i guess grmaster [3k?\]: B11 is very big Gustavo9 [7d\]: smart* ] ;W[bi]CR[bi]C[cre [20k\]: wow grmaster [3k?\]: you see alexfarc [2k\]: egc 2005 what did catalin grmaster [3k?\]: hehe Seneka1 [15k\]: grmaster ты крут EGC2005 [-\]: PROBABLY HAVING LUNCH ALEX alexfarc [2k\]: ? lakisdizle [12k?\]: finally ] ;B[cn]CR[cn]C[grmaster [3k?\]: I believe W can win now ] ;W[bn]CR[bn]C[alexfarc [2k\]: EGC 2005 what did catalin ] ;B[da]CR[da]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: hmm eventually ..... EGC2005 [-\]: EGC2005 [-\]: PROBABLY HAVING LUNCH ALEXEGC2005 [-\]: PROBABLY HAVING LUNCH ALEX calamari: got it... cre [20k\]: ko? norb [11k\]: are there any spectaters on that congress grmaster [3k?\]: haha alexfarc [2k\]: yes ] ;W[ca]CR[ca] ;B[cb]CR[cb] ;W[pk]CR[pk]C[EGCReferee [-\]: Pictures from EGC 2005 on http://www.egc-2005-prague.com/ ] ;B[qk]CR[qk] ;W[db]CR[db]C[alexfarc [2k\]: b lost this ko norb [11k\]: how many for about egc? Hageh [3d?\]: is f 3 now a sente move for b? grmaster [3k?\]: may be alexfarc setted ignored EGC?? EGCReferee [-\]: . alexfarc [2k\]: EGC2005 WHAT DID CATALIN TARANU steinelos [3k\]: L5 grmaster [3k?\]: so he can't see your answers cre [20k\]: but ko for white isn't good or? EGC2005 [-\]: ALEX: PROBABLY ORDERED SOME FOOD EGC2005 [-\]: AND NOW EATING lakisdizle [12k?\]: yes i beleive W has more ko threats EGCReferee [-\]: http://www.egc-2005-prague.com/ Hageh [3d?\]: l5 costs a point Seneka1 [15k\]: ko is good anyway Drimgere [5k\]: alexfarc, egc says he is eating please don't keep asking snowmen [2d\]: did Catalin win?? alexfarc [2k\]: yes EGC2005 [-\]: THE GAME STILL RUNNING milka2 [8k\]: Go Pierre EGC2005 [-\]: THEY ARE HAVING LUNCH BREAK cre [20k\]: n17, p11 bad for white :) palestrina [5k\]: here comes the spoup... ] ;B[ck]CR[ck] ;W[bk]CR[bk] ;B[cb]CR[cb]C[palestrina [5k\]: in fact a glass of milk, too - and some bread with butter or cheese and stuff- besides it´s rather instant noodles. ] ;W[qj]CR[qj] ;B[rj]CR[rj]C[grmaster [3k?\]: wow ] ;W[db]CR[db] ;B[bl]CR[bl]C[grmaster [3k?\]: we forgot about right side but it has enough ko threats lakisdizle [12k?\]: instant noodles lakisdizle [12k?\]: =\\ palestrina [5k\]: couldn´t resist. ceeb [9k\]: i am instant caprice ceeb [9k\]: caprise ] ;W[bm]CR[bm] ;B[cb]CR[cb]C[ceeb [9k\]: dunno ] ;W[qi]CR[qi] ;B[pi]CR[pi]C[lakisdizle [12k?\]: hehehe Drimgere [5k\]: this is where p12 comes in handy ] ;W[db]CR[db]C[lakisdizle [12k?\]: lots of ko theatres there tromp [3k?\]: why didn't white just live with d18 at a17? snowmen [2d\]: no proedilent [13k\]: K14 ? grmaster [3k?\]: well its all about pts there cre [20k\]: mmh 14 points at b18? Tsche [1k\]: A9 GralAnibal [14k\]: and sente Seneka1 [15k\]: l4 grmaster [3k?\]: probably W didn't have enough with just surviving cre [20k\]: mmh in a dan play is this many points :) grmaster [3k?\]: he needs to think about yose too Goda [19k\]: n 19 proedilent [13k\]: Isn`t K14 a big threst cre [20k\]: Goda: n17 :) proedilent [13k\]: *threat Goda [19k\]: yes ] ;B[ea]CR[ea]C[cre [20k\]: is bigger :) proedilent [13k\]: oh lakisdizle [12k?\]: interesting grmaster [3k?\]: W will not close the ko I guess snowmen [2d\]: game over grmaster [3k?\]: still alot of threats tromp [3k?\]: b thinks he's far enough ahead? grmaster [3k?\]: L16 may be grmaster [3k?\]: H3 G4 also looks good GralAnibal [14k\]: e13 nasnad [2k?\]: who do you think is winning snowmen? GralAnibal [14k\]: e12? riqui: H15 snowmen [2d\]: white colen [7k\]: but sente to play g13 Seneka1 [15k\]: I think b enough nasnad [2k?\]: ok ] ;W[cd]CR[cd] ;B[ce]CR[ce]C[JnM [3k\]: nice shape cre [20k\]: why don't close the ko? grmaster [3k?\]: that was fast exchange proedilent [13k\]: uglxy shape polonez [9k\]: he do not have to Tsche [1k\]: b wins cre [20k\]: b can only win...havent nothing to lose in this ko fight GoCowboy [?\]: two empty trias back to back Drimgere [5k\]: ah but one is eyeshape Drimgere [5k\]: the other is wasted grmaster [3k?\]: W has to play perfect yose Lifetec [1d\]: thats what dinerchtein does ussually anyways, so np? :P snowmen [2d\]: White leads with komi at least palestrina [5k\]: pros play good endgames. grmaster [3k?\]: he is counting yose now I guess palestrina [5k\]: how many points komi? milka2 [8k\]: Ilya won a lost game two days ago... ManuelF [26k?\]: gfdvvvvreüprdägöf struntz: last exchange is dangerous for white Tsche [1k\]: if b beat w sensation struntz: before it was alive ] ;W[ad]CR[ad] ;B[cb]CR[cb]C[grmaster [3k?\]: wow ] ;W[ba]CR[ba]C[grmaster [3k?\]: he gave up sente cre [20k\]: bad or? dewey [1d\]: i hope b will win gomax [3k\]: k14 polonez [9k\]: black still wining milka2 [8k\]: K14 ? shin04 [4k\]: corner dead he also lose struntz: now its alive too :-) Drimgere [5k\]: i guess that was the risk, if he tenukied it could become seki or ko again grmaster [3k?\]: may be he feels that he still has better yose dewey [1d\]: he has to play slowly now cre [20k\]: b a15? AmirTheSai [4k\]: h13? Drimgere [5k\]: white does have enough time now though thelaura [?\]: EGC, how much time have the player got? GralAnibal [14k\]: a 15 - a17 grmaster [3k?\]: H3 sente for B ] ;B[gp]CR[gp]C[grmaster [3k?\]: oh grmaster [3k?\]: G4 instead palestrina [5k\]: six points komi? skawp [4k\]: O.o AmirTheSai [4k\]: 4:30 H Hageh [3d?\]: very big, b ahead milka2 [8k\]: W A15 gote, so no emergency to play here manakem10 [12k?\]: @thelaura: 2.5h each, then 1 min/move grmaster [3k?\]: W has to protect his group now Kerrick [16k\]: g4 sente grmaster [3k?\]: H5 may be Q [9k\]: palestrina, Options/Rules Tsche [1k\]: oo ] ;W[go]CR[go]C[grmaster [3k?\]: oh palestrina [5k\]: ing rules? AmirTheSai [4k\]: yes EGC2005 [-\]: NO palestrina [5k\]: yesno? dewey [1d\]: 6.5 komi dewey [1d\]: ? GoCowboy [?\]: i think top boards= jap rules, rest:ing palestrina [5k\]: thank you Drimgere [5k\]: i don't think it's ing riqui: L2 wr [8k\]: no Ing rules at the first boards romanp [-\]: just click Options/Rules deft [4d?\]: F9 still some problem for B? palestrina [5k\]: no options GoMe [5k\]: heh fun 9d against 9d and only 34 ppl watching :-) GoMe [5k\]: (other game) lakisdizle [12k?\]: lol cre [20k\]: mmh who have the middle? f13 Drimgere [5k\]: romanp, egc may not have set the rules as at the egc palestrina [5k\]: yesthx lakisdizle [12k?\]: 9d against 9d here techincally Tsche [1k\]: L16 enough Drimgere [5k\]: Gome, both of theses players have 9d acocunts on here GoMe [5k\]: i know deft [4d?\]: hmm, no - seems W cannot cut cre [20k\]: Tsche: wem gehoert die mitte? cre [20k\]: also das bisschen links versetzte gebiet, das ist riesig...keinem? michele [1k?\]: has W e2 option later? michele [1k?\]: in the very endgame? Tsche [1k\]: die mitte kriegt b min. 10pt proedilent [13k\]: schwarz hat auf alle fälle bessere chancen AmirTheSai [4k\]: f4! Scatee [6k?\]: doesn't work Tsche [1k\]: in diesem moment L16 ist groesste thelaura [?\]: cre, kannst du bitte, bitte hier englisch sprechen, es ist besser (nicht alle konnen deutsch) :) AmirTheSai [4k\]: b Lifetec [1d\]: E2 is funny.... AxelJ [19k\]: why german allowed if russian prohibited? Drimgere [5k\]: no one said russian wans't allowed gomax [3k\]: l16 langsam cre [20k\]: thelaura: okay, sorry, my english is very bad, but i have to try to write english :) palestrina [5k\]: no one said german is allowed... thelaura [?\]: :) Drimgere [5k\]: but a russian demo was set up in the russian room by Am, and a 5d commented polonez [9k\]: I think Russian will win;D Drimgere [5k\]: so i'm sure that was more attractive snowmen [2d\]: Black has weakness at d15 and f9, cannot make points in the center Lifetec [1d\]: E2 actually seems to work... lokus [13k\]: und nicht jeder kann englisch:-( shin04 [4k\]: h13...... tromp [3k?\]: u think the russian will win? i think the russian will lose! shin04 [4k\]: lol ] ;B[ke]CR[ke]C[dewey [1d\]: b l15 ? Tsche [1k\]: d15 is not weakness DrunkenEgo [14k\]: becauz it's in Prague GralAnibal [14k\]: both are russians AxelJ [19k\]: I meant earlier in this chat russian was prohibited (i am german) polonez [9k\]: Russian willl win:P Pento [14k\]: lokus: this demonstration is given in the english game room :p deft [4d?\]: I think you're both right, tromp ^^ Gustavo9 [7d\]: looks its not easy for b to beat the komi AmirTheSai [4k\]: g2 palestrina [5k\]: is d1 a white option? Seneka1 [15k\]: missklik GoCowboy [?\]: hmmmmm Tsche [1k\]: now definitiv b wins shin04 [4k\]: w plays e14 and d15 is weakness grmaster [3k?\]: well proedilent [13k\]: m15 is a good sente grmaster [3k?\]: seems this was really big point Gustavo9 [7d\]: p18 deft [4d?\]: it's getting closer -- and Alexandre is good in the endgame michele [1k?\]: well he is but, black is so worse? GoCowboy [?\]: he's got to have one hell of an endgame tho ginsu [6k\]: anybody likes e14? ] ;W[kf]CR[kf]C[shin04 [4k\]: j14 perhaps to defend the cut proedilent [13k\]: no grmaster [3k?\]: P18 looks natural snowmen [2d\]: shapeing up grmaster [3k?\]: for W Residents: yeah, difficult game for w Tsche [1k\]: A15 GralAnibal [14k\]: D12 grmaster [3k?\]: B K14 now? Tsche [1k\]: first sente palestrina [5k\]: i´ll have another soup. gomax [3k\]: g13 ForU2: wow thekro [10k?\]: SE says b+20 - where is it so wrong? ForU2: game is still on? Gustavo9 [7d\]: p18 is big now proedilent [13k\]: does anyone like E11 tromp [3k?\]: first player to p18 will win GoMe [5k\]: does anyone like T1? Tsche [1k\]: P18? yes big GralAnibal [14k\]: E12 D12 more ForU2: thekro, the center is not that big Seneka1 [15k\]: does anywon like a 18? Ordos [7k\]: Both players are very strong GralAnibal [14k\]: w is stronger palestrina [5k\]: the automatic score-guess-engine, counts a lot for black which is not ceratin at all, while white is quite certain. milka2 [8k\]: thekro no points in N2 area ] ;B[oa]CR[oa]C[grmaster [3k?\]: wow snowmen [2d\]: Ko Dionys0s [17k\]: a18 does nothing o0 Tsche [1k\]: 7dan is coment better thanme grmaster [3k?\]: seems B targets W eyes tromp [3k?\]: no ko AmirTheSai [4k\]: g2 is good? Gustavo9 [7d\]: misclick.......?? EGC2005 [-\]: NO!! AxelJ [19k\]: @EGC: could you please type how much time is left for both players? Pento [14k\]: dionysos : adter a18, white must play a17 shin04 [4k\]: no Masakari [30k?\]: what a looong game... GoMe [5k\]: lol Pento [14k\]: *after Gustavo9 [7d\]: heh shin04 [4k\]: he wans ko wr [8k\]: no white T15 Seneka1 [15k\]: once more MISSKLICK ??? GralAnibal [14k\]: T 1!! Pento [14k\]: :-) EGC2005 [-\]: b 0:27 W 0:56 grmaster [3k?\]: now W has to build 2nd eye somhow ForU2: p19 looks legit ginsu [6k\]: just the shape move AxelJ [19k\]: thanks. tromp [3k?\]: n17 ] ;W[gj]CR[gj]C[thekro [10k?\]: there is 2nd eye at m14? grmaster [3k?\]: N17 good one GoMe [5k\]: build second eye? wolchengi [9d\]: ^^ Dionys0s [17k\]: pento: lives anyway Pento [14k\]: yes, but it is sente GoMe [5k\]: K18 & M14 rrrriiiiigggghhtttt? Pento [14k\]: good ko-threat vertigo [-\]: whats going on? deft [4d?\]: W is starting to exploit B's thinness Dionys0s [17k\]: i see shin04 [4k\]: o18 tromp [3k?\]: w can n19 to o18 deft [4d?\]: if B connects together, W will get thick in the center so he can reduce the top deft [4d?\]: if B resists, D1 becomes a problem Hageh [3d?\]: this is tricky, i only thought of f9 Tsche [1k\]: F9 Tsche [1k\]: no prob AmirTheSai [4k\]: f9 atman [5k\]: this is going to be a trade, E6 group with O11 group ;-) calamari: uh oh ! calamari: food woke w up deft [4d?\]: must H10 I think snowmen [2d\]: o11 lives grmaster [3k?\]: O11 has 2 eyes already grmaster [3k?\]: M14 and K18 deft [4d?\]: if B gets cut off N9 kills Gustavo9 [7d\]: f9 ginsu [6k\]: h10 makes black to be cut!? Gustavo9 [7d\]: oh grmaster [3k?\]: G10 very nice tesujie jasch [10k\]: what about e10? Hageh [3d?\]: d 10 giving up the 3 stones Gustavo9 [7d\]: yeah i see n8 not alive... deft [4d?\]: then W will be leading, Hageh Trinity151 [?\]: maybe P19 was a mistake shin04 [4k\]: b can c5 lol deft [4d?\]: .. but B connects together if he takes H10, no? Sureiyaa [4k?\]: why not white e3? ginsu [6k\]: how deft? Sureiyaa [4k?\]: e2* Sureiyaa [4k?\]: why not white e2 Tsche [1k\]: no connecte with H10 Trinity151 [?\]: H10 -> White F9, B F10, W F8 Gustavo9 [7d\]: oh maybe n8 i s alive despite n9 Hikarufan5 [23k\]: are all stones on the left one dead?? ] ;B[fk]CR[fk]C[Tsche [1k\]: z deft [4d?\]: hmmmmm Gustavo9 [7d\]: there is an eye around m2 Hageh [3d?\]: d 1 still ko aji palestrina [5k\]: the cutting option might arise after w d1 later (!?)... NeoNight [5k\]: bad shape ! :p Tsche [1k\]: w can not capture Drimgere [5k\]: well if it's the only move, then it's not bad shape Sureiyaa [4k?\]: gustavo9: why not e2? grmaster [3k?\]: H10 looks only move now Drimgere [5k\]: it's guzumi czarny [-\]: they are equal now nasnad [2k?\]: calling the bluff Obotchaman [14k\]: tetris shape czarny [-\]: concerning stupid triangles Gustavo9 [7d\]: e2 for who? Tsche [1k\]: w E10 i guess deft [4d?\]: yes, Gustavo -- but B can't answer K1 at H1, so W can play F1 to connect his stone there thekro [10k?\]: with f10 in place, white can't cut off n8 group ] ;W[hj]CR[hj] ;B[ei]CR[ei]C[gomax [3k\]: k9 deft [4d?\]: seems B is a bit painful to me Kerrick [16k\]: where was 183? DrunkenEgo [14k\]: hey tsche you now in Prague???:) ] ;W[gh]CR[gh]C[grmaster [3k?\]: now W will use B weak group to enter B top moyo Tsche [1k\]: no snowmen [2d\]: Sente Tsche [1k\]: ich bin in seoul JnM [3k\]: yesh DrunkenEgo [14k\]: ach so ] ;B[hg]CR[hg] ;W[hh]CR[hh]C[polonez [9k\]: B still wining a bit Tsche [1k\]: ich will naechste jahr nach Rom fleigen Gustavo9 [7d\]: but theres is no choice for b deft rather than h9 i guess Tsche [1k\]: ich will gewinnen Gustavo9 [7d\]: f9 i mean czarny [-\]: W is winning 70 PTS czarny [-\]: why not resign ? czarny [-\]: :P snowmen [2d\]: n9 is necessary ptiGOt [10k\]: lol ] ;B[nr]CR[nr]C[ptiGOt [10k\]: lol deft [4d?\]: yes, it seems all the alternatives were worse... blacklabel [19k\]: can he kill both? ^^ thekro [10k?\]: n1? Pento [14k\]: W n1 monkey jump ? grmaster [3k?\]: O2 looks very nice yose too GoMe [5k\]: if white jumps it will probably be M1 and not N1 GralAnibal [14k\]: M1 Tsche [1k\]: O2?? grmaster [3k?\]: P2 N1 exchange is good for B gomax [3k\]: b needs an eye thekro [10k?\]: m1 doesn't kill eye, does it? Lupus [3k\]: o2 to live palestrina [5k\]: long live kohlrabi. ginsu [6k\]: m1 kills the eye Pento [14k\]: mmmmm kohlrabi Pento [14k\]: makes me go hungry again Tsche [1k\]: hahaha clair2lune [6k\]: o7 n9 miai? thekro [10k?\]: wm1,bp2,wq2,bn1, then? shin04 [4k\]: m1 cannot Lupus [3k\]: m1 kills nothimg shin04 [4k\]: b n1 Lupus [3k\]: nothing* shin04 [4k\]: then q1 snowmen [2d\]: p1 seems correct snowmen [2d\]: p2 shin04 [4k\]: seems like m1 can lol polonez [9k\]: who was more time now? clair2lune [6k\]: o7 n9 miai, so b alive palestrina [5k\]: white cannot take n2-eye in sente, am i right? thekro [10k?\]: wm1,bp2,wq2,bn1,wq1,b p1 Obotchaman [14k\]: u mean o8 clair2lune [6k\]: yep clair2lune [6k\]: o8 ginsu [6k\]: right kro, w better p2 then cre [20k\]: white have to resign ;-) jasch [10k\]: wp2 bl2 wl1 bn2? jasch [10k\]: wk1 Gustavo9 [7d\]: f14? ] ;W[dh]CR[dh]C[polonez [9k\]: wow grmaster [3k?\]: good ] ;B[eh]CR[eh]C[palestrina [5k\]: to the last.# grmaster [3k?\]: I was thinking about D12 palestrina [5k\]: lucky you! Gustavo9 [7d\]: yeah good move grmaster [3k?\]: yeah thanx Trinity151 [?\]: black center suffers too much from the attack cre [20k\]: g13 isn't bit? ] ;W[eg]CR[eg]C[GralAnibal [14k\]: I said D 12 100 moves ago cre [20k\]: or this :) michele [1k?\]: uh GralAnibal [14k\]: :-P Gustavo9 [7d\]: forcing b to suffer for 2 eyes ] ;B[fg]CR[fg]C[palestrina [5k\]: i guessed as many, but dare not say... Gustavo9 [7d\]: naturally destroying b possible moyo there... grmaster [3k?\]: W plans to enter B top pts area cre [20k\]: e14 and try to cut d15 =) czarny [-\]: D14 ? ] ;W[df]CR[df]C[cre [20k\]: jeah :) czarny [-\]: right polonez [9k\]: czarny dobry:P czarny [-\]: 4 kyu się ma w końcu :) snowmen [2d\]: cutting 3 stones polonez [9k\]: hehe;) thekro [10k?\]: c13? cre [20k\]: c13 black? :) cre [20k\]: is sente HoanganhX2 [3k\]: F12 then E10 ? JnM [3k\]: very good yose Gustavo9 [7d\]: wow 3 stones is huge grmaster [3k?\]: seems W just won LivingEyes [9k\]: c13 is sente, but black might have to sacrifice those 3 tones Gustavo9 [7d\]: i think b will resign now snowmen [2d\]: winning tesuji cre [20k\]: or f14 jasch [10k\]: B e14 thelaura [?\]: no, he wont cre [20k\]: and then d15 olczyk [16k\]: czarny end of what? cre [20k\]: is close czarny [-\]: didnt say anything bout end massive [16k?\]: is there some game schedule anywhere? palestrina [5k\]: instructive game... Gustavo9 [7d\]: guess o2 was a big mistake Tsche [1k\]: why F13? ] ;B[di]CR[di] ;W[ch]CR[ch]C[olczyk [16k\]: Ok. I just came back from breakfast ( pun not intended but appreciated ) what is the status of the game? ] ;B[ef]CR[ef]C[slow [2k?\]: B Q2 and big KO ? ] ;W[dg]CR[dg] ;B[fh]CR[fh]C[JnM [3k\]: uh ? ForU2: wow cre [20k\]: mmh? AhSayuni [11k\]: Look at EGC2005's info... grmaster [3k?\]: ouch Trinity151 [?\]: no gustavo, o2 was necessary to live ForU2: must be the game now grmaster [3k?\]: by the way B has 2 eyes already? clair2lune [6k\]: b destroyed Tamsin [5k\]: how large was that! atman [5k\]: game now close on the board? grmaster [3k?\]: 2nd could be C5 Gustavo9 [7d\]: e15? jasch [10k\]: wd15 in sente Tsche [1k\]: aha b will ko threat olczyk [16k\]: czarny: koncu? ( Sorry as good as my keyboard gets.) JnM [3k\]: b nuked ptiGOt [10k\]: itthere is no ko cre [20k\]: w e15? JnM [3k\]: d15 Lupus [3k\]: c5 is no eye calamari: good finish, alex ! Tsche [1k\]: O18 grmaster [3k?\]: D15 is good enough czarny [-\]: olczyk - sorry I dont get it :D jasch [10k\]: after d15 g14 Alkibiades: ja tez nie wiem o co mu chodzi :P Gustavo9 [7d\]: tri , b can make an eye by senteing l2 then o2 , Tsche [1k\]: if b ko win jasch [10k\]: wg14 czarny [-\]: prive :D cre [20k\]: g13 is sente for w? lepenski [5k\]: W group live? olczyk [16k\]: 4 kyu się ma w końcu :) Tamsin [5k\]: igirisu o hanashite kudasai! >_< czarny [-\]: :D czarny [-\]: yeah snowmen [2d\]: e15 also good idea Tamsin [5k\]: please keep it in English spingle [8k?\]: did b need h12? Lestard [4k\]: tsche, is o18 really ko? wl16, b m16, wn19 spingle [8k?\]: f12 sry spingle [8k?\]: d6 is an eye Pempu [2k\]: no ] ;W[kd]CR[kd]C[Lupus [3k\]: d6 is no eye grmaster [3k?\]: wow spingle [8k?\]: w needs d4 to stop it being grmaster [3k?\]: L16 bigger than D15 ? ] ;B[de]CR[de]C[GoMe [5k\]: needs to protect the ko ] ;W[ff]CR[ff]C[palestrina [5k\]: options, safe-play calamari: w had something cre [20k\]: l16 is a pseudo snapbacl? ] ;B[ee]CR[ee]C[Pento [14k\]: cre : squeeze tesuji Tamsin [5k\]: throw-in and squeeze, cre jasch [10k\]: g13 ] ;W[je]CR[je]C[palestrina [5k\]: k15 big grmaster [3k?\]: W likes to risk cre [20k\]: now b have a problem ] ;B[hf]CR[hf]C[grmaster [3k?\]: E5 was alive I believe Residents: cre: L16 prevents the ko at O18 Gustavo9 [7d\]: w is sealing the deal with l16 czarny [-\]: close game Tamsin [5k\]: nah, Alex has counter this and it's probably 1 point better than D15 route..he was my teacher. Wow! what an endgame player. cre [20k\]: to late for g13 :( Gustavo9 [7d\]: or b minimised the damage? GoCowboy [?\]: h16 ] ;W[pe]CR[pe] ;B[qe]CR[qe]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: my feeling is diner is sure of the win by preventing the ko Seneka1 [15k\]: why b did't cut 3 stounes ??????? GoMe [5k\]: Seneka1: ko danger tromp [3k?\]: there was no ko karmaGfa [6k\]: where a ko ? tromp [3k?\]: o18 n19 ] ;W[ie]CR[ie]C[wauiwa [2d?\]: he did cut 3 stones ] ;B[hd]CR[hd]C[Tictactoe [-\]: white uses the S11 ko-threats to make points at D1 Tsche [1k\]: b has more ko threat! ] ;W[or]CR[or]C[GoMe [5k\]: tromp then b N17 atari Gustavo9 [7d\]: n17 is atari Kerrick [16k\]: game is even now and white has sente :-) ] ;B[mr]CR[mr]C[Lifetec [1d\]: doesnt E2 work? cre [20k\]: mmh ko fight at p1? jasch [10k\]: j9 and alive ] ;W[kr]CR[kr]C[jasch [10k\]: k9 ] ;B[nl]CR[nl]C[tromp [3k?\]: oops, right you are GoMe Lupus [3k\]: k9 would be dead jasch [10k\]: n9 k9 miai Lupus [3k\]: forget it^^ GoMe [5k\]: lol Koukkaaja [2k\]: e2 looks promising to me grmaster [3k?\]: B13 ] ;W[gr]CR[gr]C[grmaster [3k?\]: oh karmaGfa [6k\]: e2?? cre [20k\]: w d5 isnt good? gr00by [13k\]: it starts :P ] ;B[hq]CR[hq]C[JnM [3k\]: gogogo grmaster [3k?\]: F4 jasch [10k\]: f4 ] ;W[er]CR[er]C[grmaster [3k?\]: heh karmaGfa [6k\]: oh, ok calamari: don't botch move order Gustavo9 [7d\]: ko jb [2k\]: no ko JnM [3k\]: =D palestrina [5k\]: ko... EGCReferee [-\]: http://www.egc-2005-prague.com/ calamari: hane jasch [10k\]: genious JnM [3k\]: hey lepenski [5k\]: no ko wauiwa [2d?\]: e1 and ko JnM [3k\]: the Referee is HipHop =D palestrina [5k\]: ko or capture !? EGCReferee [-\]: :-) Gustavo9 [7d\]: hmm sorry grmaster [3k?\]: B has to E1 indeed Gustavo9 [7d\]: noko Gustavo9 [7d\]: e3 will kill,,,,,,, ] ;B[eq]CR[eq]C[Lifetec [1d\]: see Lifetec [1d\]: e2 ] ;W[ds]CR[ds]C[Lifetec [1d\]: :) Ebyzz [15k?\]: who is leading? palestrina [5k\]: f1, h1? palestrina [5k\]: no. GoCowboy [?\]: w leads gr00by [13k\]: white JnM [3k\]: b destroyed grmaster [3k?\]: E3 is nice Drimgere [5k\]: did you alreayd say b destroyed? cre [20k\]: nwo d5? Drimgere [5k\]: use another word ;-) shin04 [4k\]: since b losing y not fight the ko JnM [3k\]: lol JnM [3k\]: ^^ JnM [3k\]: nuked ? Drimgere [5k\]: yes! grmaster [3k?\]: still ko JnM [3k\]: okay Gustavo9 [7d\]: so its clear.. o2 was almost a waste , despite it, cant kill f2..... thekro [10k?\]: e1? shin04 [4k\]: where is the ko yanhai [5d\]: w win? EGCReferee [-\]: FIDO:Cas? grmaster [3k?\]: hum no ko nasnad [2k?\]: because he had no ko to fight thekro [10k?\]: nope - don't work grmaster [3k?\]: W just connects back Lupus [3k\]: o2 was for life LivingEyes [9k\]: white is leading with around 10 points? karmaGfa [6k\]: if black think that he will lose the ko badly, he won't play E1 and give a point EGC2005 [-\]: D: 0:40 s: 0:12 nasnad [2k?\]: if not black e3 white e3 was sente because of D4 cut olczyk [16k\]: Ok no ko where is this supposed no ko? ] ;B[bg]CR[bg]C[EGCReferee [-\]: THX grmaster [3k?\]: very very bad result for B grmaster [3k?\]: perfect yose for W ] ;W[fj]CR[fj] ;B[ej]CR[ej]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: o2 was not for life i think GoMe [5k\]: E10 > E9 ] ;W[gg]CR[gg] ;B[gf]CR[gf]C[clair2lune [6k\]: game over grmaster [3k?\]: W +10 now GoMe [5k\]: this gives white two ko threats where E9 only 1 :) cre [20k\]: who wins? str17: w karmaGfa [6k\]: t5 ? czarny [-\]: very nice game calamari: good game alex... wauiwa [2d?\]: if not O2 w could make ko ] ;W[so]CR[so] ;B[rm]CR[rm]C[GoCowboy [?\]: b was great str17: alexander is stronger in yose.. nasnad [2k?\]: hm ] ;W[bh]CR[bh]C[Gustavo9 [7d\]: should be enough win for w? GoCowboy [?\]: but beating a pro in yose is hard ^ ^ palestrina [5k\]: w leads by alittle less than komi!? nasnad [2k?\]: im not so sure about thhat, but white simply had better yose, black had left weaknesses lepenski [5k\]: B come back czarny [-\]: Illie is almost pro :P Aleksm [5k?\]: of course ginsu [6k\]: what's up with Catalin EGC? ] ;B[co]CR[co]C[thekro [10k?\]: d4? JnM [3k\]: gote Tictactoe [-\]: see that's one more reason not to study yose at all, you have to beat them in the middle-game anyhow those pro's ] ;W[bp]CR[bp]C[Drimgere [5k\]: good advice ttt EGC2005 [-\]: CATALIN PLAYING NOW ] ;B[gs]CR[gs] ;W[es]CR[es]C[ginsu [6k\]: thanks cre [20k\]: what is CATALIN? JnM [3k\]: a pro ] ;B[dp]CR[dp]C[EGCReferee [-\]: :-) cre [20k\]: bad form karmaGfa [6k\]: black didn't give white a point with a stone in E1 cre [20k\]: bad shape ] ;W[ob]CR[ob] ;B[pb]CR[pb] ;W[nb]CR[nb]C[olczyk [16k\]: You sound like a freind. A cyclist who didn't wear a helmet because he was once in an accident with a helmet and got a concussion. Tsche [1k\]: katalin is go player^^ tromp [3k?\]: well that settles it grmaster [3k?\]: O15 Q14 ? Tsche [1k\]: Catalin JnM [3k\]: Catalin Taranu , 5p snowmen [2d\]: Catalin is best tromp [3k?\]: w is first to get p18:) cre [20k\]: Tsche: women or men? GoCowboy [?\]: man JnM [3k\]: man Tsche [1k\]: m ] ;B[fn]CR[fn]C[cre [20k\]: ah okay, thx ] ;W[ho]CR[ho] ;B[gn]CR[gn] ;W[hn]CR[hn] ;B[em]CR[em] ;W[fl]CR[fl] ;B[ek]CR[ek]C[palestrina [5k\]: do they play with proper handicapse there? nasnad [2k?\]: yes, no handicap andref [11k\]: catalin taranu is the strongest player from europe ] ;W[mk]CR[mk]C[shin04 [4k\]: .... Pempu [2k\]: we will see about that Tictactoe [-\]: why did he lose to dinerchtein then last year? ] ;B[lk]CR[lk]C[palestrina [5k\]: one might expect catalin to win then. ] ;W[jk]CR[jk] ;B[jj]CR[jj]C[dmircea [7k\]: because of a wrong move Seneka1 [15k\]: Dinershtein is strongest player from Europe! Residents: dinerchtein is asian :-) GoCowboy [?\]: to be the best doesnt mean to win BubuTess [5k\]: no way dmircea [7k\]: Catalin will beat Dinerchetin this year thelaura [?\]: catalin is strongest player from europe :) shin04 [4k\]: there are many others better ...... ] ;W[pd]CR[pd]C[Tictactoe [-\]: 1p 5p there is no real difference , it's just a matter of how many years you are being pro EGCReferee [-\]: Catalin Taranu http://photo.go-school.com/egc-day1/pic/043.jpg cre [20k\]: catalin is from? GoCowboy [?\]: and he's stronger dan diner SanKingTim [6d?\]: все они играть не умеют ForU2: dinerchen is 2039485th strongest player in korea snowmen [2d\]: But Catalin is best teacher ] ;B[pf]CR[pf]C[thelaura [?\]: cre, romania karmaGfa [6k\]: Catalin may be the strongest in europe ... yeah .. I am in Asia now str17: SankKing Tim:)) shin04 [4k\]: strongest player is sai dmircea [7k\]: he is from Romania czarny [-\]: w's yose is better ] ;W[qc]CR[qc]C[Tictactoe [-\]: yes probably snowmen ] ;B[qb]CR[qb]C[cre [20k\]: mmh is a young player :) ] ;W[pa]CR[pa] ;B[qa]CR[qa]C[herrubu [23k\]: yeah catalin has a wodka in is right hand? ] ;W[rc]CR[rc] ;B[rb]CR[rb]C[cre [20k\]: looks 25 years old JnM [3k\]: radek's school haha ^^ Saishuuhek [14k\]: I'm not quite the strongest (j/k( ] ;W[ag]CR[ag]C[grmaster [3k?\]: very nice EGCReferee [-\]: :-) JnM [3k\]: :-) Seneka1 [15k\]: Taranu is 5p ??? Tictactoe [-\]: milk the cow gently GoCowboy [?\]: yes# andref [11k\]: http://gobase.org/studying/articles/mioch/taranu/ grmaster [3k?\]: now B can't connect back Q19 if he will O19 AhSayuni [11k\]: a15?... Seneka1 [15k\]: 5d andref [11k\]: taranu is 5p shin04 [4k\]: 5p is strongest lol EGC2005 [-\]: B RESIGNS czarny [-\]: great game grmaster [3k?\]: A15 Tictactoe [-\]: ilya defended well dal [-\]: oh damnit JnM [3k\]: great Alkibiades: ah.... palestrina [5k\]: nice. dal [-\]: I missed egc game AGAIN :( grmaster [3k?\]: very good game Seneka1 [15k\]: play for the end PrincessB [5k\]: wow, w did great ginsu [6k\]: thanks EGC bye czarny [-\]: maybe that L6 was a loosing move Adin [4k\]: is Catalin winning? karmaGfa [6k\]: to not play in P2 may also be a losing move EGC2005 [-\]: CYA TOMORROW wauiwa [2d?\]: k3 Hageh [3d?\]: good comment czarny JnM [3k\]: cya fido GoCowboy [?\]: cya czarny [-\]: which started the whole mess czarny [-\]: cya till tommorow EGC2005 [-\]: thanks for watching Am [5d\]: thank you EGC! EGC2005 [-\]: WELCOME! :) Am [5d\]: I m waiting for tomorrow game! EGC2005 [-\]: :) olczyk [16k\]: Wait on IGs you said WHite resigns? manakem10 [12k?\]: w won by resign ])